Charlie Daniels take on the new AZ immigration law.....

13 May 2010 18:26 #1 by Sunshine Girl
Received this from my ex-husband in AZ a few days ago. Agree or disagree with Charlie?

Bill wrote: A little long but says it like it is. Worth reading!!!!! Yeah Charlie Daniels.

HATS OFF TO CHARLIE DANIELS....

AT LEAST HE HAS THE COURAGE TO SPEAK HIS MIND!!!

Charlie:

"I don't know how everybody else feels about it, but to me I
think Hispanic people in this country, legally or illegally,
made a huge public relations mistake with their recent demonstrations.

I don't blame anybody in the world for wanting to come to the
United States of America , as it is a truly wonderful place.

But when the first thing you do when you set foot on American soil is illegal it is flat out wrong and I don't care how many lala land left heads come out of the woodwork and start trying
to give me sensitivity lessons.

I don't need sensitivity lessons, in fact I don't have any-thing against Mexicans! I just have something against criminals and anybody who comes into this country illegally is a criminal
and if you don't believe it try coming into America from a foreign country without a passport and see how far you get. What disturbs me about the demonstrations is that it's tanta-mount to saying, "I am going to come into your country even if it means breaking your laws and there's nothing you can do about it."

It's an "in your face" action and speaking just for me, I don't like it one little bit and if there were a half dozen pairs of gonads in Washington bigger than English peas it wouldn't be happening.

Where are you, you bunch of lily livered, pantywaist, forked tongued, sorry excuses for defenders of The Constitution? Have you been drinking the water out of the Potomac again?
And even if you pass a bill on immigration it will probably be so pork laden and watered down that it won't mean anything anyway Besides, what good is another law going to do when you
won't enforce the ones on the books now?

And what ever happened to the polls, guys? I thought you folks were the quintessential finger wetters. Well you sure ain't paying any attention to the polls this time because somewhere around eighty percent of Americans want some thing done about this mess, and mess it is and getting bigger everyday.

This is no longer a problem, it is a dilemma and headed for being a tragedy. Do you honestly think that what happened in France with the Muslims can't happen here when the businesses who hire these people finally run out of jobs and a few million disillusioned Hispanics take to the streets?

If you, Mr. President, Congressmen and Senators, knuckle under on this and refuse to do something meaningful it means that you care nothing for the kind of country your children and grand-children will inherit. But I guess that doesn't matter as long as you get re-elected.
Shame on you.
One of the big problems in America today is that if you have the nerve to say anything derogatory about any group of people (except Christians) you are going to be screamed at by the media and called a racist, a bigot and anything else they can think of to call you

Well I've been pounded by the media before and I'm still rockin' and rollin' and when it comes to speaking the truth I fear not.
And the truth is that the gutless, gonadless, milksop politicians are just about to sell out the United States of America because they don't have the intestinal fortitude to stand up to face reality.

And reality is that we would never allow any other group of people to have 12 million illegal in this country and turn around and say, "Oh it's ok, ya'll can stay here if you'll just allow us to slap your wrist."

And I know that some of you who read this column are saying "Well what's wrong with that?"
I'll tell you what's wrong with it. These people could be from Mars as far as we know. We don't know who they are, where they are or what they're up to and the way the Congress is going we're not going to.

Does this make sense? Labor force you say? We already subsidize corporate agriculture as it is, must we subsidize their labor as well?
If these people were from Haiti would we be so fast to turn a blind eye to them or if they were from Somalia or Afghanistan ?
I think not.

All the media shows us are pictures of hard working Hispanics who have crossed the border just to try to better their life.
They don't show you pictures of the Feds rounding up members of MS 13, the violent gang who came across the same way the decent folks did. They don't tell you about the living conditions of the Mexican illegal some fat cat hired to pick his crop.

I want to make two predictions.

No. 1: This situation is going to grow and fester until it erupts in violence on our streets while the wimps in Washington drag their toes in the dirt and try to figure how many tons of political hay they can make to the acre.

No 2: Somebody is going to cross that border with some kind of weapon of mass destruction and set it off in a major American city after which there will be a backlash such as this country has never experienced and the Capitol building in Washington will probably tilt as Congressmen and Senators rush to the other side of the issue.


I don't know about you but I would love to see just one major politician stand up and say, "I don't care who I make mad and I don't care how many votes I lose, this is a desperate situation and I'm going to lead the fight to get it straightened out."
I don't blame anybody for wanting to come to America , but if you don't respect our immigration laws why should you respect any others?
And by the way, this is America and our flag has stars and stripes Please get that other one out of my face.

God Bless America"

MY COUNTRY
IF IT IS YOUR COUNTRY,
SPEAK UP!
I am not against immigration -
just come through like everyone else
Get a sponsor;
have a place to lay your head;
have a job;
pay your taxes;
live by the rules;
and
LEARN THE LANGUAGE
as all other immigrants have in the past
and
GOD BLESS AMERICA!

PART OF THE PROBLEM

Think about this:
If you don't want to forward this
for fear of offending someone,
YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM!

Will we still be the Country of choice
and still be America if we continue
to make the changes forced on us by
people from other countries who came
to live in America because it is the
Country of Choice?

Think about it!

All we have to say is, when will
Someone do something about
MY RIGHTS?
We've gone so far the other way,
bent over backwards to not
offend anyone, that I am now
being offended.
But it seems no one has a problem
with that.

"In God We Trust"
is our national motto. This is not
some Christian, right wing, political slogan.
We adopted this motto because Christian men
and women - on Christian principles - founded
this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls
of our schools.
It is Time for America to Speak up
If you agree - pass this along;
if you don't agree - delete it!

:popcorn:

" I'll try anything once, twice if I like it, three times to make sure. " Mae West

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13 May 2010 19:09 #2 by The Viking
Love it Sunshine! Thanks.

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14 May 2010 09:38 #3 by Rockdoc
Oh boy do I identify with that view point. Love the "gonads bigger than an English pea" remark. How true. Politicians are too interested in preserving their own interests than in serving the people, so it makes it hard to take a consistent stand against the political wind.

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14 May 2010 13:12 #4 by CC
I am with Charlie on this one!!!!

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15 May 2010 10:04 #5 by LopingAlong
And I say that if we approach the issue with an attitude different than this, we will make faster headway with legalizing those that are here illegally. Instead of rounding up illegals and deporting (they really do just come back you know, they are very good at it) offer a way to stay legally and bring their loved ones if they want. Instead of declaring war on fellow humans who are trying to make a better life for themselves, what if we helped them in that effort? (As a side note: Education on birth control would be a great start, IMO, but then religion enters the picture. Nothing is cut and dry. Nothing is black or white.)

The problem is, everyone thinks there is a shortage of resources and many times, there is not. Sometimes, there is. Oil for example, will run out. Sun light, not so much. I maintain that the average American whitebread youth with any kind of priveledged background would no sooner do the jobs that most Mexicans have as they would eat their own shirts, nor would the youth of the ghettos who really do need the work. This is just my opinion, not fact that I can quote from some internet site. Just me, thinking outside the general trend of most Americans who have bought into the whole "It's ours, you can't have it!" notion. It is quite easy to hate, to blame and to fear others. It is popular to feel that way even.

It is wrong that Mexicans (and others) are here illegally, I am not arguing that point. I am arguing that when we bring hatred and greed as the intention to force change, that change will not come about without the prediction of good ole boy Charlie coming true. ---->"No. 1: This situation is going to grow and fester until it erupts in violence on our streets while the wimps in Washington drag their toes in the dirt and try to figure how many tons of political hay they can make to the acre. "

If we were to shift our focus from "It's ours, you can't have it," to "Here's what we have, what do you have?" I think it would be a whole different scenario. What if we didn't hoard and instead worked together? What if the resources were shared among all Humans? Really, I know it's an unpopular notion but, what if?

I do believe the more we perpetuate hatred, the more hatred arises. I'm just offering another thought, another way of looking at a situation. Look at the situation for just a moment as if you were The Illegal here because you felt you had no other chance at helping your family. You have no money to get here legally and all your friends are here and it's easy. It's easy to cross the border, it's easy to make money fast and it's easy to get that free ride home for Christmas--would you sit in a cardboard hut being all legal watching your family go without basic needs like housing and food or would you do whatever you could to make your life better?

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15 May 2010 11:41 #6 by Rockdoc
Give me a break. Are you telling me that because they managed to get here illegally, they deserve to be given the opportunity to become legal after they shunned that opportunity to do it in the first place? Or that because they are good at entering the country illegally we embrace them so it will not happen again? NO WAY.

I am a legal 1953 German immigrant. It took my mother 5 long years to gain her immigration visa to the land of opportunity. You think it was easy to come up with the necessary records following the aftermath of WWII?? Oh there were other ways (illegal) to make it to America back then as there are now. We did not pursue those because of an attitude. We believe in honoring a countries immigration policies since we wanted to embrace the opportunities America promised. Illegals do not honor our country in any way.
Paltry work and pay:
They work for less, live in poor conditions, etc. My heart does not bleed for them. Been there and done that. We worked at any job for less because that was still better than no work at all. The whole family sacrificed to achieve the American dream. My father, an architect, worked mostly as a stone mason, carpenter, handyman. My mother, a professional photographer, worked as a maid. i as a youngster from the time I was 10 or 11 accompanied my father, dug ditches, helped with the masonry work, excelled at manual labor for which he charged 50 cents a day. Later I would clean toilets, work as a craftsman, cook, Father even farmed me out for the summer to work on a farm, anything that brought in money for the family. The house we had featured a dirt floor in the kitchen and a frame that would move when you leaned against it. We came and accepted those conditions because we knew our hard work would eventually pay off.

When the day was done elsewhere we came home and worked in our garden, to grow our food. 16 hour days were normal in the summer.

School:
We learned the language. It took mother 7 long years to achieve sufficient proficiency to pass her citizenship test. I knew only "I don't know" when I began school. Being English illiterate, they put me back into first grade because there was an expectation that I had to learn English. It was not for me to protest and hold out for classes in German so I could continue my education with my peers in third grade. Our family also possessed the attitude that we were to embrace the laws, language and culture of the US. Oh, we retained German friends, spoke German at home for many years, but we took pride in becoming Americans. We took pride in making something of ourselves within the system, not because of it. We sacrificed like so many other legal immigrants to America from around the world. So your pleas for solving the illegal immigrant problem by giving and providing fall on deaf ears here. They should not even be here to begin with. They are not seeking political asylum like some Vietnamese did a few decades ago. And check out what those immigrants did. Much like our family they toiled, sacrificed, learned the language (some better than others) and embraced the laws of their adopted country.
American ambassadors
Over the past few decades I've traveled extensively for work and even lived overseas for extended periods of time. Wherever I've gone, I've made an effort to learn the language if only enough to offer a greeting or order food. Regardless of what I think of their laws or customs, I honor them not abuse them or demand we be given special privileges because of who we are. I've not forgotten my roots so I treat everyone as a human being first. As such I've become a well-received ambassador for America, the land I love and call home. Once again it comes down to attitude. I do not feel entitled but privileged to have an opportunity to earn a living while doing it legally.

Everywhere I go, I need to show proper paperwork. Many countries I work in have check points where you must show proof that you are legally in the country. Failure to provide necessary documents has dire consequences. America needs to invoke the dire consequences our laws call for rather than an amnesty statement for breaking the law. Don't you need to carry your driver's license with you should you be stopped? Don't you need to show an ID in many places including in stores for making cc purchases, to buy liquor etc.? What is the big deal about asking Americans to show proof they are legal citizens. It sure as hell will not offend me if I were to get asked. Again it comes down to attitude. I honor the land in which I live by abiding by its laws and defending its freedom (Ok, Sunshine, most of them), certainly the ones that are important, like paying my taxes, contributing to SS, serving in the military....

Round up illegals, send them back, caught again throw them in jail. I'm not willing to sacrifice to pay for benefits for them, but for my children and grandchildren. Let them earn it.

I've made who I am through hard work and considerable sacrifice. I'm doing well at this point, but should my work dry up, I'm willing to go out into the fields again and pick lettuce or tomatoes, clean bathrooms, etc. It's honest work and better than being a burden on my children.

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15 May 2010 12:28 #7 by LopingAlong
Rockdoc, I'm not saying that they shouldn't be forced to be legal. I'm not saying that they should get anything for nothing. I'm not saying that because they are good at entering the country illegally we embrace them so it will not happen again.

I'm saying there are other ways of getting what we want and what they want. And it doesn't have to mean hating and fearing anyone. There are always those that adhere to the law and those who break it. I'm saying that some of these folks are hard working people who have been here for many years--right or wrong, legally or illegally--and they should be offered the chance to make themselves here legally. I'm saying that forcing the hatred issue is the wrong way to approach, well, pretty much anything; including this issue.

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15 May 2010 18:45 #8 by The Viking

Rockdoc wrote: Give me a break. Are you telling me that because they managed to get here illegally, they deserve to be given the opportunity to become legal after they shunned that opportunity to do it in the first place? Or that because they are good at entering the country illegally we embrace them so it will not happen again? NO WAY.


I have been out all day and have not had a chance to read everything on this yet but I have to agree totally with you Rockdoc. It is like telling a bank robber. 'Well since you got past our security system and were so good at getting in, we are not going to arrest you, in fact we are going to just let you stay and take what you want. Don't worry about what you take, someone else will pay for it. And if you need anything, tht is covered too. Now we are only going to overlook this crime, so please dont do any more. Good luck to you.'

I will never understand the logic of why people think this crime should just be overlooked. But yet they know it wouldn't be if we did the same thing in any other country.

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15 May 2010 19:26 #9 by jf1acai
I agree with Charlie Daniels and Rockdoc.

My mother immigrated legally from Finland with her parents. My paternal grandmother immigrated legally from Ireland. They too worked at whatever jobs they could get, and at the same time worked hard to learn the language, laws, and customs of their new adopted country.

When it was just folx from the 'old country' involved, they could speak the 'old' language. But, whenever kids or non-immigrants were around, everyone spoke English. It was one of the ways they learned, and impressed upon the kids the importance of learning.

I agree that it is largely a matter of attitude. And I am all for helping those whose attitude is based upon doing things legally, whatever country they come from.

Experience enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again - Jeanne Pincha-Tulley

Comprehensive is Latin for there is lots of bad stuff in it - Trey Gowdy

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16 May 2010 07:26 #10 by LopingAlong
I never said the crime should be overlooked. I said they should have a chance to become legal.

And if someone can afford the boat/plane trip across the ocean, I'm guessing they weren't living in below-poverty squalor and arrived with at least a little money to get started. Not like Mexican and Cuban people who come here from very adverse conditions.

All I am saying is, sometimes, there is a force more important, more insistent and more driving than paperwork. Now, it's time to fix it. How? Rounding these people up and sending them back simplywon't fix the problem.

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