Who Has These Answers!! DADT

Subject: Fw: Who has these answers? Beats the Heck out of Me

This guy has given us a small dose of what open homosexuality in the military would create. What an unbelievable mess for commanders. Every vet should read this. #1

For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor that the protected will never know.

I think that the questions raised are legitimate and need to be distributed widely for consideration.


Written by a retired Marine officer with excellent command credentials, name withheld.

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I was skeptical of DADT also. But, it worked because the objective was to permit individuals to serve. Not once did I ask a Marine if he or she was a homosexual or a heterosexual. It was not an issue for me, and the Marines with whom I served never made it an issue.

Unlike DADT, the current agenda in not about individual service. It is a political agenda focused on total integration and acceptance not of individuals but of the homosexual lifestyle.

I think ending DADT suddenly is a major distraction to combat readiness and good order and discipline. Special interest groups whose primary intent is fostering total acceptance not only of homosexuals but the homosexual lifestyle are using the Armed Forces as a judicial lab rat.

I am suspect of any person who puts any personal issue above devotion to duty and accomplishment of mission. Are we Marines 24/7? What is more important one's sexuality, one's religion, one political party, or the imperatives of duty?
On a practical level:

I am not sure what serving "Openly" as a homosexual means. I would like to see a definition Is all homosexual conduct permitted? Such as, cross dressing and going to the PX? What conduct is not permitted? From a command and leadership perspective these questions need to be addressed, and the Congress needs to make the necessary adjustments to the UCMJ.

When someone joins the Armed Forces must he/she declare their sexuality? i.e. male or female; homo/hetro
I want to know how Federal hate speech laws apply to the Armed Forces. For example, If a non-homosexual Marine calls a homosexual Marine a "faggot" is that hate speech? Will company commanders be required to take judicial action? If no judicial action is taken, will commanders be subject to civil or criminal suit by various homosexual political groups and their elected sponsors.

Will a career Marine's personal opinion on homosexuality become an impediment to promotion or assignment to key billets?

Specifically, is the belief that homosexuality is a choice and homosexual acts immoral not compatible with military service?

Do the Senate and the House Armed Services committees intend to demand sexuality statistics to make certain that homosexuals are being promoted at the same rate as non-homosexuals? Will homosexuals be promoted at a faster rate to "compensate" for previous years of discrimination?
Since same sex marriage is not authorized by Federal Law is a married homosexual from MA authorized to enlist? Does the spouse of a married homosexual rate a dependent's ID card? Will "partners" of homosexuals be given dependent status?

If yes, what is the definition of a "partner", one night stand, one year relationship. How often may a homosexual change partners and the partner still rate dependent benefits? Will partners of homosexuals be assigned to on-base housing? Do former "partners" of active duty homosexuals retain dependent benefits (like a divorced spouse) when divorce is not a legal option?

Will homosexual Marines be permitted to date each other? Live with each other as "partners" in the BOQ/BEQ"? How does this affect fraternization regulations?

Will homosexuals be deployed to countries where there is no SOFA in place in which homosexuality is a crime? If no, who picks up the slack?

Are there any assignments to which homosexuals must be or may not be assigned? For example, may an elected official demand a homosexual officer as a military aide?

Will homosexuals who become HIV positive still be discharged? Is being HIV positive now a "service connected" injury which rates disability?

These are just the tip of the ice berg. I have no doubt that right now there are active duty colonels who are just now discovering their real sexuality and can't wait to be the FIRST OPENLY HOMOSEXUAL GENERAL

To sum it up, it is approaching FUBAR status!! I fear for the future of our Corps.

Marty
Walker M. Lazar
Colonel, U.S. Marine Corps, Retired

Damn. There's always someone looking to spoil deviants fun isn't there?

I think they are serious concerns!!

Let's address one of the points, homosexuals overseas in less tolerant countries. Women aren't allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia, do military and civvie American women drive in Saudi Arabia, yes.

There will be problems adjusting to "out" homosexuals but considering how few gays are there, less than 5%, and less likely to choose a military lifestyle than normal civvies, I think the adjustment period will be short and go pretty easy.

SS109 wrote: ...and less likely to choose a military lifestyle than normal civvies...

What do you mean by this statement?

JusSayin wrote:

SS109 wrote: ...and less likely to choose a military lifestyle than normal civvies...

What do you mean by this statement?

I believe male homosexuals are less inclined to choose the military compared to male heterosexuals. And while female homosexuals may be more likely to join the military than female heterosexuals, women are a smaller part of the military.

But what is the basis for your thinking that? Why is that?

Only anecdotal, of the homosexual men I know, only one ever joined the military and he only served one term, Marines. Do you think it would be higher? I did come across something the other day that claims there is a "velvet mafia" in the miltary where homosexuals will show favortism to other homosexuals they know, like the West Point fraternity.

SS109:

Where does the statistic of 5% come from?