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ckm8 wrote: ..... you can't afford an open mind on this topic.....
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http://www.onlyzerocarbon.org/science.htmlResidenttroll wrote: I am still waiting for scientists to prove that if we cease the production of carbons...that they will save the world and that the earth will not keep heating up at a rate of 1/10th of degree every decade.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 05451.htmlAnother Republican is going on the record chastising members of his party for ignoring science. Former Congressman Sherwood Boehlert (R-N.Y.) recently penned a criticism of fellow members of the G.O.P. and urged the new congress to, “Have a policy debate to address facts rather than a debate featuring unsubstantiated attacks on science.”
With his time limited in Washington, Rep. Bob Inglis (R-S.C.) took a few shots (see video below) at his Republican counterparts during an environmental subcommittee meeting this week. The South Carolina Republican hit fellow conservatives with a one-two punch by attacking their denial of climate change and their economic hypocrisy.
"Climate-science denial is a by-product of extreme partisanship and a kind of reactionary mode among conservatives, and I expect that this will wane," says Paul Bledsoe, a senior adviser to the Bipartisan Policy Center, a centrist think tank based in Washington DC. He says that most Republicans in the current Congress accept the science even if they disagree over what to do about it. "But if large parts of the Republican Party begin to deny consensus science," he adds, "then the climate community will have to confront them about it."
Change is in the winds...Several top House Republicans have indicated that they may want to hold “Climategate” hearings (although more recently, there has been some apparent backing away from this idea).
The question now becomes whether incoming Republicans will follow through on such plans—or if it’s all just a head feint. If they’re serious, they can expect a powerful response from scientists, much like the strong mobilization against Cuccinelli organized by the Union of Concerned Scientists, the American Association of University Professors, and many others.Recently I got the chance to speak with Michael Mann—by far the most attacked climate researcher on the planet—and to ask what he was expecting from the next Congress, and how he might respond. Mann pulled no punches. “I think I speak for the entire scientific community,” he answered, “in saying that if scientists are subject to the sorts of McCarthyite witch hunts that took place during the 1950s, there will I suspect be a very fierce pushback by the scientific community, and by public interest groups that support science.” A congressional subpoena fight could get ugly—but for precisely that reason, it could also backfire for congressional Republicans.
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There's something uniquely pitiable about someone who can only make a point by misquoting another poster. You must be having a brutal day if this is the best you can do. I suggest two fingers of Macallen. Neat.daisypusher wrote:
ckm8 wrote: ..... you can't afford an open mind on this topic.....
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I assume this is true for you on other topics as well? Please tell us which topics that you do not have an open mind. Please tell us the misrepresentations you make so as to achieve the results you want. One of the criticisms of socialists/socialism is that the ends justify the means. Hence all the human tragedies that are possible with this type of government. What have you done in your close-minded attempts to assert your "progressive" agenda?
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ckm8 wrote:
There's something uniquely pitiable about someone who can only make a point by misquoting another poster. You must be having a brutal day if this is the best you can do. I suggest two fingers of Macallen. Neat.daisypusher wrote:
ckm8 wrote: ..... you can't afford an open mind on this topic.....
rofllol
I assume this is true for you on other topics as well? Please tell us which topics that you do not have an open mind. Please tell us the misrepresentations you make so as to achieve the results you want. One of the criticisms of socialists/socialism is that the ends justify the means. Hence all the human tragedies that are possible with this type of government. What have you done in your close-minded attempts to assert your "progressive" agenda?
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"Climate-science denial is a by-product of extreme partisanship and a kind of reactionary mode among conservatives, and I expect that this will wane," says Paul Bledsoe, a senior adviser to the Bipartisan Policy Center, a centrist think tank based in Washington DC. He says that most Republicans in the current Congress accept the science even if they disagree over what to do about it. "But if large parts of the Republican Party begin to deny consensus science," he adds, "then the climate community will have to confront them about it."
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Peter H. Gleik of the Pacific Institute writes, ...there is an improved realization of how impossible it is to keep the climate science questions and debates separate from the political and ideological debates. And I hope we’ve learned the importance of communicating accurately and constantly. Being passive in the face of political repression, ideological misuse of science, and policy ignorance moves us in the wrong direction. I would like to think the community has learned that depending on the “honesty” and “impartiality” of journalism is not enough … that without strong input from climate scientists, the wrong stories get reported, with bad information, and ideological bias.
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