Giffords Opens Her Eyes! -- Conservatives: "You Lie!"

13 Jan 2011 14:19 #21 by Scruffy

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13 Jan 2011 14:29 #22 by ScienceChic

Nmysys wrote: There are some who haven't backed down one iota from blaming this on politics even though it has been announced repeatedly that Loughner hated the news and was a Leftie.

Loughner wasn't a liberal - he was a registered Independent who didn't even vote in the last election. He didn't just hate the news, he hated the entire government - if you're going to label him anything, call him an anarchist - the exact opposite of a liberal. Now can we at least, please, stop repeating this lie?
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix ... regis.html
Posted at 5:28 PM ET, 01/10/2011
Jared Lee Loughner was a registered independent, didn't vote in 2010 election
By Chris Cillizza

Suspected Tucson gunman Jared Lee Loughner registered as an independent voter in Arizona in the fall of 2006, according to the Pima County Registrar of Voters.

Loughner registered to vote on Sept. 29, 2006, identifying himself as an independent. Records show he voted in the 2006 and 2008 elections but is current listed as "inactive" on the state's voter roles -- meaning that he did not vote in November.

Loughner's decision to affiliate as an independent rather than a Republican or Democrat would seem to affirm the sense that while he targeted Giffords in the attack, it was not a decision born of a set of deeply held political beliefs that fit neatly into either party.

Nmysys wrote: Obama lied to make it a dramatic point for his approval ratings.

Nmysys, I know you like to post stuff just for the sake of stirring things up, but outright denial...come on.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 1011203220
Surrounded by friends, Giffords opens one eye and reaches for husband's hand
Wasserman-Schultz, Gillibrand discuss Giffords opening her eyes
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y) and Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (D-Fla.) talk about the moment Gabrielle Giffords opened her eyes for the first time.
By Anne E. Kornblut
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, January 13, 2011; 11:07 AM

When Obama departed from his prepared text to announce in his speech that Giffords had opened her eye, it became one of the most rousing applause lines. He did not get into details, except to say that her colleagues and husband had witnessed the moment.


Transcript of the actual speech, not the prepared one:
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2011/01 ... gabby.html

I have just come from the University Medical Center, just a mile from here, where our friend Gabby courageously fights to recover even as we speak. And I want to tell you -- her husband Mark is here and he allows me to share this with you -- right after we went to visit, a few minutes after we left her room and some of her colleagues in Congress were in the room, Gabby opened her eyes for the first time. (Applause.) Gabby opened her eyes for the first time. (Applause.)

Here's the video, the part I quoted above starts at the 10:58 mark. Listen again and then tell me he lied when he said she opened her eyes AFTER HE LEFT (which, by my count, he states twice). And listen for how he says it - does he try to understate that it happened after he left, or try to insinuate that it happened because he visited? I don't see that at all and if that's what you're going to quibble on, then we are at an impasse. But please try to listen objectively and search for the truth. This isn't a liberal outrage, this is an outrage because the truth, plain to see, documented in word and video, is being vigorously and vociferously denied. The lesser the search for the truth, the deeper we sink into chaos.
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"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill

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13 Jan 2011 14:59 #23 by LadyJazzer

Nmysys wrote: LIBERAL Outrages of the day!!!!

LJ will argue anything and everything no matter how much PROOF you have that it is wrong.

Obama lied to make it a dramatic point for his approval ratings.


Obama didn't lie... But YOU LIE...

Nmysys wrote: There are some who haven't backed down one iota from blaming this on politics even though it has been announced repeatedly that Loughner hated the news and was a Leftie.


Loughner was NOT a Leftie...You LIE...


SC just gave you the proof.

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13 Jan 2011 17:07 #24 by pineinthegrass

LadyJazzer wrote: Loughner was NOT a Leftie...You LIE...


SC just gave you the proof.


SC expressed an opinion that he might of been an anarchist. But we don't have proof of exactly what his politics were. And I don't see that it matters given the fact that it is clear the guy was crazy (without going into an exact diagnosis).

Now, if you want to guess he might be an anarchist, I've considered them to be more far left-wing than right-wing as this article states...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist

Anarchism is often considered to be a radical left-wing ideology,[8][9] and much of anarchist economics and anarchist legal philosophy reflect anti-statist interpretations of communism, collectivism, syndicalism or participatory economics. However, anarchism has always included an individualist strain [10] supporting a market economy and private property, or morally unrestrained egoism.[11][12] Some individualist anarchists are also socialists.[13][14]


But at it suggests at the end, and after further research, I see there are right-wing anarchists too. But they tend to support some conservative values too, like religion and banning drugs. And that doesn't seem to go with what Loughner practiced or believed.

But again, who the hell really knows what's going on in that guy's head? He may of just done this because he thought she looked at him funny when he first met her and he asked her a crazy question.

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13 Jan 2011 20:57 #25 by Residenttroll returns
Isn't if funny that the Congressman who yelled, "You lie" was redeemed and correct in his outburst.

Did Obama lie about following Bush policies?
Did Obama close Gitmo yet?
Where's the hope and change?
Where's the lower unemployment numbers?

Obama lies....

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13 Jan 2011 21:11 #26 by navycpo7

Nmysys wrote: LIBERAL Outrages of the day!!!!

LJ will argue anything and everything no matter how much PROOF you have that it is wrong.

Obama lied to make it a dramatic point for his approval ratings.


Go look in the mirror, you are doing the exact same thing

If you watched the Memorial service, when the President stated she opened her eyes, he did not say it was while he was there. Now if you did watch the services you would have noticed that her husband (who by the way is the Commander of the upcoming space shuttle mission) shook his head up and down in a YES when the President stated she had opened her eyes.

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13 Jan 2011 21:21 #27 by archer
It doesn't matter what nmysys posts, it was a very touching and uplifting moment in last nights service. I think most everyone is following the congresswoman's fight for life and even the smallest signs of hope cheer us all......the look on her husband's face when the camera was on him at that time was so poignant.

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