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With China's record on human rights, with wouldn't surprise me if they one day had to take the "Soylent Green" approach :Whistlelionshead2010 wrote:
Then there are China's very real problems. China has 700 million very poor people. By 2050, it will have 400 million very old people. It will "get old before it gets rich," as conservative writer Mark Steyn likes to say. The country is shot through with corruption, bogus accounting practices that make subprime mortgage bundles look like gold bullion, and a political elite that remains terrified of democracy. A confident government doesn't banish its Nobel Peace Prize winners. [/i]
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Isn't remotely powerful, influential, or rich enough? That's quite the claim to make. http://www.economywatch.com/world_economy/china/ No, we aren't as weak, ignorable, or poor, but we are in very dire straits, are not implementing policies that look to the future and would give us the advantage back, and will be hurting for quite some time to come, which does weaken us.lionshead2010 wrote: I know it has been all in vogue under the new administration to apologize for any and all things America does and stands for, but I found this gentleman's perspective refreshing. He makes some good points. A fun read.
America's China syndrome is overblown
...Another reigning cliche is that the sun is setting on us as it did on the British Empire. But what does that mean? China isn't remotely powerful, influential or rich enough to play the leading role of America, and we aren't nearly so weak, ignorable or poor to deserve the supporting gig as 1950s Britain.
China is a much older, and vastly different culture, than our Western culture: to say that they don't want to, or can't lead, just because they aren't doing it typical Western-style (eg loud, demanding, showy, with suspect covert operations thrown in), is to completely miss the influence and methods that they prefer, and may well end up being just as effective. Don't forget; at our nascent rise, anti-foreign involvement was pervasive. We did not interfere, or closely associate with, other countries - we were isolationist. Our globalization came more so with being drawn into World Wars, forever changing our cultural attitudes toward foreign involvement. China has long been isolationist as well, but times are changing, just like they did for the U.S. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/56a99fdc-2405 ... z1BpLluWMzBesides, although China clearly wants its moment in the sun, it doesn't seem particularly eager or able to lead. "When was the last time Beijing offered its own peace plan for the Arab-Israeli conflict, for instance?" asks Jonathan Eyal, Europe correspondent for the Straits Times in Singapore.
Well, is that because they aren't involved, or because it doesn't make the news here? http://www.indianembassy.org/policy/For ... tro%29.htm"Other emerging powers are no better," he adds. "What is India's contribution to, say, solving the crisis in Sudan? Or Russia's plan for dealing with the North Korean nuclear problem?"
A nice, feel-good statement there that means nothing for the future and lacks definition of how well-received and effective our "leadership" has been in solving conflicts and problems.In other words, American leadership is still the global norm...
China Economic Review: http://www.economywatch.com/economic-review/china.html It remains to be seen if China will surpass the U.S. - they are currently in a healthier state than we are, economically, which gives them an advantage, but they do indeed have serious issues to contend with. Certainly the statement about its Nobel winners is spot-on...Then there are China's very real problems. China has 700 million very poor people. By 2050, it will have 400 million very old people. It will "get old before it gets rich," as conservative writer Mark Steyn likes to say. The country is shot through with corruption, bogus accounting practices that make subprime mortgage bundles look like gold bullion, and a political elite that remains terrified of democracy. A confident government doesn't banish its Nobel Peace Prize winners.
China is definitely more of an economic challenger, rather than a military powerhouse, but the end result of an economic war would be more devastating for an individual country rather than the world as a whole. So if you're looking big picture, this opinion is true.Even with its copycat stealth fighter, China is certainly less of a military threat to the United States than the Soviet Union was. It's more of an economic challenger, but that's a good problem to have, right? Currency wars are better than nuclear ones.
I myself have no problem with a conservative point of view. But, I do think that this writer is making short-sighted assumptions and invalid predictions based on a narrow set of facts. Having a feeling of exceptionalism about your country is fine, as long as you keep a realistic perspective on what's been done, is being done, why, and what the repercussions of each decision could be. Our current lack of true, strong, long-sighted leadership in our highest level of politicians does not engender confidence.townhall.com/columnists/JonahGoldberg/20...ricas_china_syndrome
I know my ultra-liberal friend in the room will dismiss the writer immediately because he is clearly a conservative and therefore (in their mind) has no credibility. However I, like Mr. Goldberg, believe that America is still great and still the best. There is certainly no place on earth I'd rather live (and I've seen several on several continents). We aren't perfect by a long shot and there is always room for improvement, but to spend all our time apologizing for things our country may or may have not done is counterproductive and puts us at a disadvantage diplomatically on the world scene. I have yet to see one benefit from the current administration's policy to "diss" America. Not one! I have seen a general degradation of our international standing though so I wonder where President Obama is going with this agenda?
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lionshead2010 wrote: I know it has been all in vogue under the new administration to apologize for any and all things America does and stands for, but I found this gentleman's perspective refreshing. He makes some good points. A fun read.
America's China syndrome is overblown
...Another reigning cliche is that the sun is setting on us as it did on the British Empire. But what does that mean? China isn't remotely powerful, influential or rich enough to play the leading role of America, and we aren't nearly so weak, ignorable or poor to deserve the supporting gig as 1950s Britain.
Besides, although China clearly wants its moment in the sun, it doesn't seem particularly eager or able to lead. "When was the last time Beijing offered its own peace plan for the Arab-Israeli conflict, for instance?" asks Jonathan Eyal, Europe correspondent for the Straits Times in Singapore.
"Other emerging powers are no better," he adds. "What is India's contribution to, say, solving the crisis in Sudan? Or Russia's plan for dealing with the North Korean nuclear problem?"
In other words, American leadership is still the global norm...
Then there are China's very real problems. China has 700 million very poor people. By 2050, it will have 400 million very old people. It will "get old before it gets rich," as conservative writer Mark Steyn likes to say. The country is shot through with corruption, bogus accounting practices that make subprime mortgage bundles look like gold bullion, and a political elite that remains terrified of democracy. A confident government doesn't banish its Nobel Peace Prize winners.
Even with its copycat stealth fighter, China is certainly less of a military threat to the United States than the Soviet Union was. It's more of an economic challenger, but that's a good problem to have, right? Currency wars are better than nuclear ones.
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I know my ultra-liberal friend in the room will dismiss the writer immediately because he is clearly a conservative and therefore (in their mind) has no credibility. However I, like Mr. Goldberg, believe that America is still great and still the best. There is certainly no place on earth I'd rather live (and I've seen several on several continents). We aren't perfect by a long shot and there is always room for improvement, but to spend all our time apologizing for things our country may or may have not done is counterproductive and puts us at a disadvantage diplomatically on the world scene. I have yet to see one benefit from the current administration's policy to "diss" America. Not one! I have seen a general degradation of our international standing though so I wonder where President Obama is going with this agenda?
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