I just got off the phone with a woman who has been nvolved with the Republican Party statewide for years. She is very happy Dick is quitting. Says he is an egomaniac with anger issues and could even see him taking a job with the Hick. Fought the TEA Party when he should have been embracing them.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
Now, to get rid of another DICK! Elsner and company.
I see now that Bobbi Gore, the undersheriff's wife, wants to run as a vice-chair. Hey, why not the Elsner wife, Bobbi Gore, and June Wegener? For good measure, we could through in the County Attorney's wife that is a department director, Robin Philips. WINNING ticket for Park County lack of leadership & continuity?
Something the Dog Said wrote: Dick Wadhams, Colorado GOP chairman quit yesterday saying:
"I have loved being chairman, but I'm tired of the nuts who have no grasp of what the state party's role is," he said."
"I have tired of those who are obsessed with seeing conspiracies around every corner and who have terribly misguided notions of what the role of the state party is while saying 'uniting conservatives' is all that is needed to win competitive races across the state," Wadhams wrote.
Sounds like he has been dealing with some of the conservative posters here.
We need to really start educating our people. Our schools are producing these Tea Baggers so I guess we are getting what we pay for. You know if we could just show people where all of our money is going it would make a huge difference. If these Tea Baggers could take a few moments and look at a simple graph and understand it, it would be a better world. I too have had enough of these waterheads. It's like talking to a wall sometimes. They are so sensitive and fragile that they can't even entertain the fact that they might be wrong about something. And honestly, as fellow Americans, these people embarass me sometimes.
Who are we afraid of now?
VL while I agree that the defense spending needs to be cut, and can be done without endangering the troops, starting with defense contractors, and job duplication, etc. your charts are somewhat off target. Not accurate.
The different services can eliminate alot of money just by stopping the uniform changes that happen every other year it seems. Then there are programs that not needed that could go away and have no impact on the troops. The big thing here is to get the bozo's in Congress to allow the DOD to cut what they feel is ok to cut and not worry about what impact it has on thier state. Its not about the states it about this country in whole.
The biggest expense of human resources is the 100%taxpayer paid retirement fund. 20 year retirees get 50% of the previous three years pay plus Veteran Preference points for other government jobs ... and they don't pay a dime into their retirement plan. 30 year retiree gets 80% and vet preference points.
20 year military (free college education too) and 20 years in a government job...retire at 65...and make well over $ 100,000 per year retired without minimal cash outlay...that's today's federal government employee. They have been become career socialist.
residenttroll wrote: The biggest expense of human resources is the 100%taxpayer paid retirement fund. 20 year retirees get 50% of the previous three years pay plus Veteran Preference points for other government jobs ... and they don't pay a dime into their retirement plan. 30 year retiree gets 80% and vet preference points.
20 year military (free college education too) and 20 years in a government job...retire at 65...and make well over $ 100,000 per year retired without minimal cash outlay...that's today's federal government employee. They have been become career socialist.
Hey RT if you are going to talk about something you seem to really know nothing about, you might want to look things up before running off about it.
20 Year retirees get 50% of one of a couple different plans, depending on when you enlisted. There is the high 3, there is what your retired at etc. Some could even retire early
30 Year retirees get 75% of active duty pay under the same thing as above.
Yes there are points for Government jobs, but not all veterans qualify for them. Here is the point system. And not all even qualify for it.
Five-point preference: Basically, five points are given to honorably separated veterans who have served more than 180 consecutive days of active duty before October 14, 1976 (including service during training under the six-month Reserve or National Guard programs), or during any war or expedition for which a campaign badge has been authorized (such as Desert Shield/Storm) and served continuously for 24 months or the full period called or ordered to active duty (including for training). Retired members of the Armed Forces above the rank of Major or Lt. Commander are no longer eligible for the five-point preference. Their preference is contingent upon a disability.Ten-point preference: Ten points are given to disabled veterans and veterans who are awarded the Purple Heart and honorably separated.
When one goes to work for the government there is rules that govern alot of it including retirement. Upon retirement from the government job if you have already retired from the military you have to decide which retirement you will take. Your military service, (served under honorable conditions) counts towards this as it is considered government service. You cannot retire from the military draw a retirement then work for the US Government civilian job, then retire from that and draw another retirement from the US Government. I know this first hand. Unless the laws have changed in the last 10 years, it is still the same. If you select the civilian retirement you still retain the right for onbase usage. So one does not make the socalled 100000 dollars a year in retirement unless you are really up there in the chain of big wigs.
residenttroll wrote: The biggest expense of human resources is the 100%taxpayer paid retirement fund. 20 year retirees get 50% of the previous three years pay plus Veteran Preference points for other government jobs ... and they don't pay a dime into their retirement plan. 30 year retiree gets 80% and vet preference points.
20 year military (free college education too) and 20 years in a government job...retire at 65...and make well over $ 100,000 per year retired without minimal cash outlay...that's today's federal government employee. They have been become career socialist.
Now this so called free college education, not everyone get a full free college education. There are rules and requirements for this. Each one qualifies for some percentage of benefits for education. Again not all get the full 100%, they still have out of pocket expenses.
residenttroll wrote: The biggest expense of human resources is the 100%taxpayer paid retirement fund. 20 year retirees get 50% of the previous three years pay plus Veteran Preference points for other government jobs ... and they don't pay a dime into their retirement plan. 30 year retiree gets 80% and vet preference points.
20 year military (free college education too) and 20 years in a government job...retire at 65...and make well over $ 100,000 per year retired without minimal cash outlay...that's today's federal government employee. They have been become career socialist.
NOW THE BIGGEST EXPENSE OF HUMAN RESOURCES IS THE 100%TAXPAYER PAID Welfare programs for the lazy no good for nothing people that sit on thier butts and draw money from the government that do not even deserve it. There are those that are legit, but a boat load that are not. Then we have those getting food stamps that turn around and sell them, or the ones that use their debit cards given to them to buy things that they do not need (good example was after hurricane Katrina) taking thier cards to the casinos and buying big screen TV's etc.
So you want to come down on the Veterans and the military, let lay it all out there. But make damn sure you know what you are talking about.
With all due respect the days of "selling food stamps" is virtually non-existent any more because the states have gone to the debit cards.
There were MANY outrageous misuses of the debit-cards issued by FEMA (under the Bush adminstration)..."Heck of a job, Brownie"...until they put the safeguards in place...(which should have been done before the cards were distributed). The computers are SUPPOSED to kick out purchases made on the cards for any items that are not on the approved list of food-stamp type items...(Which would exclude tobacco, alcohol, and just about anything that isn't food.) This wasn't done, and it doesn't take long for folks to figure that out. To paint ALL food-stamp recipients and debit-card users with the actions of the post-Katrina/FEMA fiasco is patently unfair.
Ever since Clinton signed the Welfare Reform bills the days of indefinitely "sitting around on one's butt, drawing welfare" was drastically changed. The benefits are time-limited and expire, just like unemployment benefits. It varies from state to state, but in most cases it can range from 30 months to somewhat longer...(I couldn't find the rules for all the states.) However, I did find a chart and some interesting statistics from one state, Connecticut. Here is a link to that chart:
Tested between 1996 and 2001, Connecticut's Jobs First welfare reform initiative featured one of the nation's shortest time limits on the receipt of welfare benefits. After 30 months on the welfare rolls, recipients would no longer be eligible to supplement earnings from a job with welfare cash assistance payments and food stamps. MDRC researchers found that during the first two years of the study period, Jobs First group members earned, on average, $837 more (as indicated by the left-most bar in the "pre-time limit" cluster) than a comparison group that continued to receive standard welfare benefits under the prevailing rules of Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC). The Jobs First group also received more in welfare benefits - $1,116 more, on average - than the AFDC group (the second bar in the "pre-time limit" cluster); they also received more in Food Stamps (the third bar). As a consequence, total income for the Jobs First group topped that of the AFDC group by $2,281 (as shown in the right-most bar in the "pre-time limit" cluster).
I realize it falls on deaf ears for some, but UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BENEFITS are NOT "Welfare." UI is paid for by the employer AND the employee through payroll deductions. When the benefits run out, then the states have to come up with the money to continue, and they generally get it from the Federal government, unless they have it in their budgets.
Just injecting a bit of facts into the discussion.