Censored online, ? who's call?

09 Jun 2010 11:37 #1 by Tilt
While on another forum--concerned citizens from McKinely
subdivision, Bailey ask for info on renting a road grader to
fix their unsafe road. When I enquired as to why no call
county, reply its a private road. Yet my maps show Public dedicated!! So I checked Park counties assessors records
and it shows all streets to be public. So as I suggested
to the Homeowners-check assessor-shows public-ZAP.
Everything on it disappeared.
??Wonder who told them that?--Be smart U go online check
your street and make a photocopy(it is also on your deed).
Didn't they try to pull that trick (recently) on Will-o-Wisp.
A desperate frenzy for $$$ is going on. or were the homeowners
just mistaking about Private v Public

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09 Jun 2010 14:01 #2 by Grady
It very possible that the road is public, but is not county maintained.

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09 Jun 2010 14:09 #3 by Wayne Harrison
That's the way ours were in our neighborhood when we first moved in. Everybody chipped in for a road grader every couple of years.

We had to pay to get the road up to county standards before the county considered taking over maintenance.

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09 Jun 2010 17:49 #4 by Tilt
Replied by Tilt on topic Censored online, ? who's call?
State of Colorado statutes + Fed--all public dedicated roads to be maintained by the town, city, county. Its not a matter of choice. State says municipalities must maintain a Road and
Bridge budget as adequate to maintain roads. Statutes
also say NO PERSON shall damage or allow a road to be damaged(erosion, potholes etc) that are UNSAFE, INCONVIENENT to safe travel. If you live on public road their
is no excuse--stand up for yourself. If its private, Yep you and
neighbors must chip in $$$.

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09 Jun 2010 17:51 #5 by Wayne Harrison
The key there is "public dedicated roads" which you may be confusing with public roads. Subdivision roads may or may not be public dedicated roads. Ours weren't. The county never accepted them when the subdivision was built and wouldn't accept them in a deteriorated condition. As I said, they had to be brought up to county standards in order for the county to accept them.

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09 Jun 2010 18:00 #6 by Tilt
Replied by Tilt on topic Censored online, ? who's call?
Sorry there is no sepeartion of Public dedicated road. As mentioned above-go to assessors web, put in your search data for you. Go
down to road description it will say public or public dedicated, either way
they are the same. Public alone more like a nickname. Then go to state
statutes. If you live in Harris park-they are to be maintained
publically by county-but because so narrow- county has always tried to weasal out of it. Other subdivisions in Park county-not like Harris Park.

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09 Jun 2010 18:25 #7 by Wayne Harrison
Well it sounds like you are not asking for advice, you're telling us what you believe is so, so I don't know what else to say other that you misunderstand the difference between county maintained roads and non-maintained roads. Just because someone puts in a subdivision with roads doesn't automatically mean the county has to plow them. A lawyer or surveyor could probably explain it to you.

In our case, once the county accepted the roads in the subdivision afer they were brought up to code, the county became responsible for all plowing, signs, upkeep and improvements. The roads had to be a certain width, have a certain crown in the middle and have particular depth drainage ditches. Before that, they wouldn't even put a plow in the subdivision.

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09 Jun 2010 18:52 #8 by Tilt
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Wayne-this post is about a road that is dedicated already.
I give you the sources-ie: state statutes, to give you all info
would not lead to understanding the problem. When you
wing it-it confuses people. Please don't assume(ASS-U-ME).
You never di mention your subdivision=confusing, Wayne, baby.

OTHER-Fact just happened again-went to Pinecam(liv Room)
and my post was altered. Do they have a county mole.
The editing was made to confuse the readers.
This reign of BOCC going back to approx 2002 a non-stop all
taxpayer expense to tell citizens their roads are no longer
public and have been delisted, no $$=DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
But these citizens who believe that Bull are the ones who believed Ambulance/fire people that -no vote $, ?? maybe
no service. State LAWS/STATUTES say municipalities
over 10,000 people MUST furnish ambulance--GOTCHA X2,
--thats what happens when one assumes. :Sick:

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09 Jun 2010 19:31 #9 by Wayne Harrison
I like you PC nick better.

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