Runaway Murdering Ex Cop the Poll

11 Feb 2013 09:47 #1 by Grady
Yes I know this poll is a bit macabre but….. :yinyang:

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11 Feb 2013 09:51 #2 by FredHayek
He is already dead. Pretty hard to hide when they are offering people a million dollar reward. But who knows, some people can lay low for years like Rudolph and the Unabomber.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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11 Feb 2013 10:49 #3 by deltamrey
The poll is interesting although the sample space is small..........but is says the police(LAPD) are possibly inept and ineffective.........IMHO most Americans would agree. IF they had the support and confidence of the people they would prevail.......so far seems not. BTW the mass media announcment that "the people" are the major contributors to the bounty is probably massive El Toro PoPO.......put out there to garner public support for the LAPD. Defend the Second.......and the Forth......forever.

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11 Feb 2013 11:07 #4 by deltamrey
My...last (promise).....do homewirk and draw conclusions.......pardon for mixing topics but they are closely coupled:

Congress passed amendments to the Posse Comitatus Act as part of the DOD Authorization Act of 1982. The amendments passed over the numerous objections of civil liberties groups. Most important of these was the prediction that even passive military assistance, such as the provision of equipment and equipment operators on a routine basis, would unduly threaten the civil-military separation. Further, the ACLU warned that permitting military personnel to train civilians in the operation of military equipment would allow the military to assume functions that should be the responsibility of police academies.
The 1981 amendments to the Posse Comitatus Act permit the military to provide civilian law enforcement officials with information, equipment and facilities as well as training and advice. They further give military personnel limited authority to actually operate or maintain equipment made available to civilian forces in certain situations such as aerial reconnaissance when enforcing drug laws. Courts have interpreted these amendments as permitting the use of both military equipment and military operators to assist local police officers in searches for drugs.
Later amendments to the Posse Comitatus Act include a 1987 requirement that the Secretary of Defense conduct an annual briefing for local law enforcement personnel in each state regarding the "information, technical support, and equipment and facilities available to civilian law enforcement from the Department of Defense." This section also requires that the DOD make available to these law enforcement officials a comprehensive list of all the "suitable" military equipment available.
In addition, Congress specifically amended the Act in 1993 to provide procedures for states (and local agencies) to purchase "law enforcement equipment suitable for counter-drug activities" through the Department of Defense. What these amendments have meant is the proliferation of local police use of military equipment (flash-bang grenades, assault rifles, armored personnel carriers) that are accouterments of war. Anyone who has participated in anti-globalization protests such as those in Seattle or Washington, DC, has witnessed the proliferation of armored personnel carriers as weapons of intimidation. The use of such equipment is permissible under both amendments to the Posse Comitatus Act as well as court interpretations that approve of the use of military equipment by civilian law enforcement.
Other courts have gone further to say that there are no limits on a state governor's powers to use the National Guard "to execute the laws." Further, courts have also said that all a governor has to do is to "generally authorize" use of the National Guard, leaving implementation and supervision up to local police. At least one state court has held that such an arrangement (almost by definition) does not violate a state constitutional requirement that the "military must at all times be subordinate to civil authority."
COUNTER-TERROR AND BEYOND
In January 1999, the Department of Defense asked President Clinton to appoint a "military leader" in the event of a terrorist attack on U.S. soil. The powers of this "Homeland Defense Command" leader were left unclear. Also left unclear was just how far the U.S. Army can exercise "Homeland Security" law enforcement activities in light of what is left of the Posse Comitatus Act.
We now have a "terrorist attack" and the formation of a new "Homeland Security Department" seems imminent. What is left of the Posse Comitatus Act is being bent into strange contortions. At least 1,600 federalized National Guard troops now patrol "homeland security" activities along U.S. borders under the supervision of federal law enforcement agencies. These troops are considered exempt from the Act since they are somehow no longer part of the Army or Air Force once deputized and are rather under the operational control of a federal law enforcement agency. State-controlled National Guard troops patrol airports. The Senate Armed Services Committee has recommended expanding the use of federally funded state National Guard troops to perform other "homeland security" activities "as has been the practice for more than a decade in connection with counter-drug activities" authorized under 32 U.S.C. §112.


OH.....all above was PRE-911.........protect the SECOND.

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11 Feb 2013 12:59 #5 by deltamrey
FYI....so a swat team does not visit my humble abode.....all the last is fron An article by William Cohen.....Slick Willies SECDEF........circa 1998.......pre 911.....and he was an insider....all this was his and my concern about the impending police state and the spin lawyers in WDC are paid to put on the issues......like Drones murdering citizens......also Congress is involved.....ask your congressman if he is aware and ask Senators what they feel.

IF the answers are BS.....dump them ASAP.

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11 Feb 2013 14:05 #6 by Blazer Bob

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11 Feb 2013 14:07 #7 by Grady

Blazer Bob wrote:

After the latest LAPD shoot em ups you can blame him.

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11 Feb 2013 14:17 #8 by Grady
In response to DeltaMrey post I agree.

FBI thwarts Oakland bank bombing
In Llaneza's case, the FBI declaration said he told the supposed Taliban representative in their Nov. 30 meeting that he wanted the bank bombing to be blamed on anti-U.S. government militias. He said he supported the Taliban and believed in violent jihad, the agent said, and hoped the bombing would prompt a government crackdown, a right-wing response and, ultimately, civil war.

SFGate.com

You know the government would have found another right to curtail or another bit of information to collect on all of us.

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11 Feb 2013 16:05 #9 by deltamrey
Grady......My exposure to the US nuclear weapons programs circa 1980 and earlier and a visit to the Nuclear Museum on Kirtland AFB NM----open to all----easily tells me a small nuclear weapon could have been easily or maybe several easily smuggled into USA before 911.....in containers----piece of cake. The Iranians have most aaccess to most all of the "goodies" that remain in USSR (opps....Russia - Putinville). IF SO where do you suppose they would be placed........revenge is best served on a cold platter......and we have no counter.....at all.
Nuclear weapons small or not do need servicing BTW
will not go there of course.

THAT could well lead to complete loss of civil rights as in 1940 and civil urest........IMHO.
Food for review.

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12 Feb 2013 10:56 #10 by Grady
Whomever picked Central or South America might be on the right track.

Federal Investigators Suspected Dorner Fled to Mexico, Affidavit Shows
In a federal criminal complaint, authorities state they had cause to believe Dorner crossed the border

NBC LA

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