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Winning isn't everything

18 Nov 2011 17:09 #1 by UNDER MODERATION
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Friends, take it from a guy that played 6 years and coached 7 winning two Carnation Bowls and finishing second in a couple others. Winning isn't everything. Personal Stats are more important and Timmy doesn't have them..

These are laughable bordering on ridiculous
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_ ... /tim-tebow

And he's not even an American so don't even think about him running for President one day..

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18 Nov 2011 18:58 #2 by Arlen
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That is "loser talk".

Winning is a large majority of many things.

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18 Nov 2011 19:05 - 18 Nov 2011 22:57 #3 by UNDER MODERATION
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I won 2 Carnation bowls with that philosophy

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18 Nov 2011 19:19 #4 by archer
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Having sour grapes for dinner tonight VL?

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18 Nov 2011 23:01 #5 by UNDER MODERATION
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archer wrote: Having sour grapes for dinner tonight VL?


Why no

My opinion on Tebow has been completely validated by his performance

He's the worst ever

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19 Nov 2011 17:06 #6 by Martin Ent Inc
And he's making the $$$ to prove it.

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21 Nov 2011 12:46 #7 by FredHayek
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Sometimes a player transcends stats.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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21 Nov 2011 12:55 #8 by Nobody that matters
Winning is the only thing.

Personal stats are only used for personal growth, and are completely worthless in determining the 'best' team.

The sole measurement of 'best team' is win/loss record.

"Whatever you are, be a good one." ~ Abraham Lincoln

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21 Nov 2011 18:31 - 21 Nov 2011 21:33 #9 by Rockdoc
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Opinions. We are full of them. Here we are evaluating TIm again. Worst ever, eh? lol I suppose style points mean more. Hummm. Let's see how the Vikings feel about loosing even though their QB throws a nice ball. Or let's look at what RIver's feels like now that they have lost 5 in a row. Not too happy is he? Right now, I think he would give anything to have a win rather than 300 yards of passing.

But we are talking about another athlete. Some people see potential where others only see stats for a reason to chastise. According to a real expert, you know someone with actual pro ball experience, Tim will develop into a great QB. Even if non of us here are self-proclaimed Carnation Bowl football experts, it's not hard to see the difference between a winner and a whiner. Oh, VL, you might want to read this article. I posted it on another thread you started where you bad mouthed Tim. But since you we're evaluating talent, here you go.

Everybody wants Timmy to be a 60 percent (passing) quarterback. I guarantee he soon will be," Bratkowski said. "He'll get better and keep improving. He was 31-of-35 in his last college game (the Sugar Bowl). Despite what his critics say, he will be a great passer.
The 80-year-old Bratkowski was around more than a few quarterbacks in his 40 NFL seasons — 14 as a quarterback and 26 as an assistant coach. He served as Bart Starr's backup when the Packers won an NFL championship (and got Green Bay to the game by taking over for an injured Starr in a playoff game and starring), then the first two Super Bowls.


Read more: Woody Paige: Tim Tebow has a big backer in Zeke Bratkowski - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/paige/ci_1937 ... z1eMOXFHgN
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What will it be then, once he routinely passes in the 60% range? Seems I heard you say he can't throw deep also (I take 56 yards to Decker over two Chief defenders is not a quality pass or long ball). Proven wrong again on that one too. Those grapes making you gag?

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21 Nov 2011 19:14 #10 by Martin Ent Inc
Well I have checked the Carnation bowl stats,, uhm well I don't see vl's name.

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