CriticalBill wrote: We only know what they allow us to know, nothing more and good luck proving any of it.
Good point.
Rumsfeld was on Hannity's TV show tonight. He again said no waterboarding was done at Gitmo. But he also did mention the 3 people who got "enhanced" interrogation by the CIA prior to going to Gitmo. He said the enhanced interrogation did get results, but it was after a leading question by Hannity who told him Leon Panetta had said info was gotten from enhanced interrogation. Rumsfeld ask Hannity if he was sure Panetta had said that, and Hannity said "yes". But I'm not so sure that is true.
So far as I can tell the only source for what Panetta said was from tonight's Brian Williams interview, which I watched. Panetta did not directly say any such thing. He said the info to locate Obama came from many sources. He didn't give credit for enhanced interrogation, but he didn't deny it either when Williams reworded the question. But Panetta is part of the Obama administration, so maybe this is the latest way to diffuse the issue?
Anyway, here is the transcript of the interview. Williams did a great job trying to get as much info from Panetta about enhanced interrogation as he could, but still didn't get any real details. It starts at 10:47:31.
[A] closer look at prisoner interrogations suggests that the harsh techniques played a small role at most in identifying Bin Laden’s trusted courier and exposing his hide-out. One detainee who apparently was subjected to some tough treatment provided a crucial description of the courier, according to current and former officials briefed on the interrogations. But two prisoners who underwent some of the harshest treatment — including Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, who was waterboarded 183 times — repeatedly misled their interrogators about the courier’s identity…
Had to start work, and forgot to change it to Libya.
WE SHOULD be helping Syria.
Honest mistake... Or I mis-spoke, or Bush made me tape it... or... or...
A former head of counterterrorism at the CIA, who was investigated last year by the Justice Department for the destruction of videos showing senior al-Qaeda officials being interrogated, says that the harsh questioning of terrorism suspects produced the information that eventually led to Osama bin Laden’s death.
Jose Rodriguez ran the CIA’s CounterTerrorism Center from 2002 to 2005 during the period when top al-Qaeda leaders Khalid Sheikh Mohammad (KSM) and Abu Faraj al-Libbi were taken into custody and subjected to “enhanced interrogation techniques” at secret black site prisons overseas. KSM was subjected to waterboarding, sleep deprivation and other techniques. Al Libbi was not waterboarded, but other EITs were used on him.
A former head of counterterrorism at the CIA, who was investigated last year by the Justice Department for the destruction of videos showing senior al-Qaeda officials being interrogated, says that the harsh questioning of terrorism suspects produced the information that eventually led to Osama bin Laden’s death.
Jose Rodriguez ran the CIA’s CounterTerrorism Center from 2002 to 2005 during the period when top al-Qaeda leaders Khalid Sheikh Mohammad (KSM) and Abu Faraj al-Libbi were taken into custody and subjected to “enhanced interrogation techniques” at secret black site prisons overseas. KSM was subjected to waterboarding, sleep deprivation and other techniques. Al Libbi was not waterboarded, but other EITs were used on him.
