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1/3rd of conservatives still think Obama not born in U.S.
04 May 2011 17:26 #33
by ScienceChic
And why can't we agree on this statement from another thread?
And I'd bet you that many other liberals would say the same thing, but when we just keep getting put in a box, under assumptions of what we support or don't, it gets really old. As does the name-calling (and no, I'm not just singling you out here), and cracks at the length of my posts - which you hadn't even noticed have been shorter than usual. Can we please just have a good debate on this?
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
Replied by ScienceChic on topic 1/3rd of conservatives still think Obama not born in U.S.
In case you hadn't noticed recently, I don't have time to make big long posts. Or I'm doing it late at night after catching up on the days' activity and don't have the energy (have you seen the time-stamp of my posts?).Nmysys wrote:
But you are right in that he's not as clean as he campaigned that he'd be - his record on transparency sucks, among other things. Many who voted for him have become disaffected by his actions and lack of follow-through on his professed convictions. He is certainly NOT our messiah.
We finally agree on something SC. Just seeing that you had posted I was getting ready to type TLDR but it wasn't necessary.
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And why can't we agree on this statement from another thread?
It's an easy line to cross, by those in power, to go from torturing captured terrorists to detaining and interrogating suspected US citizens - checks and balances, and accountability of those in charge, are crucial to maintain freedoms. Why am I, the liberal who supposedly blindly believes in big government doing everything for us, the one arguing that we need to hold them up to scrutiny and document what they are doing?SC wrote: I want transparency and accountability, both of the CIA, and of our government, which is the point of the inquiry. How is it that we wouldn't agree on that?
And I'd bet you that many other liberals would say the same thing, but when we just keep getting put in a box, under assumptions of what we support or don't, it gets really old. As does the name-calling (and no, I'm not just singling you out here), and cracks at the length of my posts - which you hadn't even noticed have been shorter than usual. Can we please just have a good debate on this?
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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04 May 2011 18:03 #36
by ScienceChic
"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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I know - I consider it my civic duty to combat those dreadful actions and get everyone posting long, thoughtful, deep, insightful, respectful debates and responses here in the Courthouse! It's a sacrifice but a cause I deeply hold - I will not rest! :eatingsmilies: :bodybuilding: Then we can go to the Ring and blow off steam! :woo hoo: Did you see my 100 Best Movie Insults post down there? It might come in handy... :Whistle lol
It's a sacrifice but a cause I deeply hold - I will not rest! :eatingsmilies: :bodybuilding: Then we can go to the Ring and blow off steam! :woo hoo: Did you see my 100 Best Movie Insults post down there? It might come in handy... :Whistle lol "Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther
The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. ~Winston Churchill
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04 May 2011 21:07 #38
by Rockdoc
There are brief moments when it has happened. It's a huge challenge and I'll try to give you a helping hand. I see AV will do her part too.
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Science Chic wrote: I know - I consider it my civic duty to combat those dreadful actions and get everyone posting long, thoughtful, deep, insightful, respectful debates and responses here in the Courthouse!
There are brief moments when it has happened. It's a huge challenge and I'll try to give you a helping hand. I see AV will do her part too.
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