What led us to finding Osama?

04 May 2011 09:56 #11 by The Viking

AspenValley wrote: What led us to finding Osama?

The will to do it.

Which your guy apparently lacked.


Seriously??? Bush is the ONLY President with the will to do it! It is everything HE put in place that led to Osama's death. And it was Obama's lack of will that almost got rid of everything we needed to find him. Thank God Americans and enough in congress still had the will to folow through with all that President Bush put in place.

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04 May 2011 09:58 #12 by AspenValley
Yeah, I have a subtle learning disability something like dyslexia. It often results in laughable mistakes like the one I made earlier in this thread. I try to have a sense of humor about it.

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04 May 2011 10:00 #13 by The Viking

AspenValley wrote: Yeah, I have a subtle learning disability something like dyslexia. It often results in laughable mistakes like the one I made earlier in this thread. I try to have a sense of humor about it.


You gave us a good laugh and I think we have all typed or said that at one point or another.

The b-s is so interchangable between Obama and Osama.

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04 May 2011 10:01 #14 by AspenValley

The Viking wrote:

AspenValley wrote: What led us to finding Osama?

The will to do it.

Which your guy apparently lacked.


Seriously??? Bush is the ONLY President with the will to do it! It is everything HE put in place that led to Osama's death. And it was Obama's lack of will that almost got rid of everything we needed to find him. Thank God Americans and enough in congress still had the will to folow through with all that President Bush put in place.


I beg to differ. Bush clearly lost interest in pursuing bin Laden quite early on in the game. You can't achieve what you don't make a priority.

Obama, on the other hand, talked in specific terms about pursuing bin Laden even if it meant going into Pakistan to look for him even BEFORE he was elected. And there is the undeniable fact that he DID find him, isn't there?

You are simply wrong about this.

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04 May 2011 10:02 #15 by Photo-fish
What the f**K does OBL have to do with the economy other than the fact that conservatives and conspiracy nuts are allowing this story to remain in the headlines?

You think Obama is taking credit and I think he is taking responsibility. I am not saying messiah Bush had nothing to do with this. He was instumental in getting the policies in place that Obama continued to use. This credit issue is just another distraction like the birther BS.

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04 May 2011 10:02 #16 by jf1acai

Yeah, I have a subtle learning disability something like dyslexia. It often results in laughable mistakes like the one I made earlier in this thread. I try to have a sense of humor about it.


:thumbsup:

An easy mistake to make, and it provided an opportunity for some levity :biggrin:

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04 May 2011 10:04 #17 by jf1acai

The b-s is so interchangable between Obama and Osama.


rofllol :lol: :rofl

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04 May 2011 10:20 #18 by Something the Dog Said

The Viking wrote: It was a series of things that led us to Osama. Which with any not in place would have meant we Osama would probably still be running around free today.

First boots on the ground. Our military castrating the Taliban in Dec, 2001.
Next our military intelligence which was strengthened in the years following 9/11 and they were given many more tools to work with.
Gitmo which is where we obtained valuable and important information leading to Osama's whereabouts.
Wiretapping, which is where we picked up a call from Osama's personal courier which led us to the address.
Possibly waterboarding. They won't come out yet and admit it but they when asked if waterboarding helped them get info on Osama, they were told that it is an 'Open question'. So we may find out if that helped.

SO there were 4 things that needed to be in place for this to have happened and for us to find and kill the world's number one terrorist and the masterming behind the worst attack on American soil.

1) Our military and the war in Afghanistan..... Bush started and kept supporting......Obama was against it, voted against it and wouldn't vote on funding our troops there.

2) Our military intelligence......Bush made sure they had and could use all the money and tools needed.......Obama has continually fought to cut funding for our intelligence.

3) Gitmo......Bush opened it and it supplied incredible ammounts of intelligence that we will never even know the full extent of.........Obama campaigned on closing it and swore to shut it down and was totally against it

4) Wiretapping........Bush was RIGHT and it worked tapping terrorist phones and suspicious people which led us right to Osama's door........Obama, trying to appease voters claimed it was wrong and was agianst it.

So Bush started and supported everything that worked to capture Osama. Obama was against and fought against everything that worked.

SO what happens?

Obama comes on TV and uses 'I' dozens of times and takes credit for this success and doesn't even give President Bush who put all the pieces in place, a thank you or even an acknowledgment. The United States finding and killing Osama succeeded IN SPITE of Osama fighting against everything that we needed and what worked. What Bush KNEW we needed and would work. Obama is the most arrogant worthless piece of crap President in history.


This post is totally full of lies.

(1) President Obama supported and funded the war in Afghanistan, it was the war in Iraq that took the resources away from the war in Afghanistan that allowed Bin Laden to escape and let the Taliban regain its strength that Obama campaigned and voted against. You will not find any source to support your outright lie regarding President Obama's support for the war in Afghanistan.

(2) It is a lie that President Obama defunded military intelligence.

(3) There is nothing magic at Gitmo that would have prevented interrogation of prisoners at other locations.

(4) The CIA has had authority to wiretap foreign nationals and suspected terrorists for decades. The only thing that Bush changed was doing away with the oversight of wiretapping by the FISC and allowed the wiretapping without oversight.

Talk about your worthless piece of sh*t. Get your facts right and don't post your worthless lies.

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04 May 2011 10:26 #19 by LadyJazzer

Something the Dog Said wrote:

The Viking wrote: It was a series of things that led us to Osama. Which with any not in place would have meant we Osama would probably still be running around free today.

First boots on the ground. Our military castrating the Taliban in Dec, 2001.
Next our military intelligence which was strengthened in the years following 9/11 and they were given many more tools to work with.
Gitmo which is where we obtained valuable and important information leading to Osama's whereabouts.
Wiretapping, which is where we picked up a call from Osama's personal courier which led us to the address.
Possibly waterboarding. They won't come out yet and admit it but they when asked if waterboarding helped them get info on Osama, they were told that it is an 'Open question'. So we may find out if that helped.

SO there were 4 things that needed to be in place for this to have happened and for us to find and kill the world's number one terrorist and the masterming behind the worst attack on American soil.

1) Our military and the war in Afghanistan..... Bush started and kept supporting......Obama was against it, voted against it and wouldn't vote on funding our troops there.

2) Our military intelligence......Bush made sure they had and could use all the money and tools needed.......Obama has continually fought to cut funding for our intelligence.

3) Gitmo......Bush opened it and it supplied incredible ammounts of intelligence that we will never even know the full extent of.........Obama campaigned on closing it and swore to shut it down and was totally against it

4) Wiretapping........Bush was RIGHT and it worked tapping terrorist phones and suspicious people which led us right to Osama's door........Obama, trying to appease voters claimed it was wrong and was agianst it.

So Bush started and supported everything that worked to capture Osama. Obama was against and fought against everything that worked.

SO what happens?

Obama comes on TV and uses 'I' dozens of times and takes credit for this success and doesn't even give President Bush who put all the pieces in place, a thank you or even an acknowledgment. The United States finding and killing Osama succeeded IN SPITE of Osama fighting against everything that we needed and what worked. What Bush KNEW we needed and would work. Obama is the most arrogant worthless piece of crap President in history.


This post is totally full of lies.

(1) President Obama supported and funded the war in Afghanistan, it was the war in Iraq that took the resources away from the war in Afghanistan that allowed Bin Laden to escape and let the Taliban regain its strength that Obama campaigned and voted against. You will not find any source to support your outright lie regarding President Obama's support for the war in Afghanistan.

(2) It is a lie that President Obama defunded military intelligence.

(3) There is nothing magic at Gitmo that would have prevented interrogation of prisoners at other locations.

(4) The CIA has had authority to wiretap foreign nationals and suspected terrorists for decades. The only thing that Bush changed was doing away with the oversight of wiretapping by the FISC and allowed the wiretapping without oversight.

Talk about your worthless piece of sh*t. Get your facts right and don't post your worthless lies.



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04 May 2011 10:31 #20 by The Viking

AspenValley wrote:

The Viking wrote:

AspenValley wrote: What led us to finding Osama?

The will to do it.

Which your guy apparently lacked.


Seriously??? Bush is the ONLY President with the will to do it! It is everything HE put in place that led to Osama's death. And it was Obama's lack of will that almost got rid of everything we needed to find him. Thank God Americans and enough in congress still had the will to folow through with all that President Bush put in place.


I beg to differ. Bush clearly lost interest in pursuing bin Laden quite early on in the game. You can't achieve what you don't make a priority.

Obama, on the other hand, talked in specific terms about pursuing bin Laden even if it meant going into Pakistan to look for him even BEFORE he was elected. And there is the undeniable fact that he DID find him, isn't there?

You are simply wrong about this.


Where did he get the intelligence? From all the things Bush put in place and Obama wanted to end, shut down or defund. Facts are facts.

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