How to die in Oregon.

09 Jun 2011 10:19 #31 by bailey bud
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I do not think death should be a spectator sport.

The public should stay out of individual life/death decisions.

I fully support making this a private decision between patient/physician ---- period.

I'd also hope very sincerely that this does not become a big money-making venture.
I don't think death should be an industry.

If I ever become terminally ill, I hope that I'll be allowed to take my last breath enjoying a view of the mountains in a place like Zurich.

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09 Jun 2011 10:25 #32 by LadyJazzer
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bailey bud wrote: The public should stay out of individual life/death decisions.

I fully support making this a private decision between patient/physician ---- period.



Not only "the public", but others who want to impose their own viewpoints and beliefs on those who should be allowed to make their own fully-informed choices.

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09 Jun 2011 10:52 #33 by PrintSmith
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bailey bud wrote: I do not think death should be a spectator sport.

The public should stay out of individual life/death decisions.

I fully support making this a private decision between patient/physician ---- period.

I'd also hope very sincerely that this does not become a big money-making venture.
I don't think death should be an industry.

If I ever become terminally ill, I hope that I'll be allowed to take my last breath enjoying a view of the mountains in a place like Zurich.

Once someone else enters into the decision making process, it is no longer a private matter bb, it is a public one. If you want to keep the matter private, then the matter must be kept to yourself and acted upon by yourself. The decision to commit suicide is indeed a private one that one must make for themselves. However, once you seek the assistance of someone else in carrying out that private decision, the matter is no longer a private one.

When my father was diagnosed with cancer, he was prescribed a pain medication to control the associated pain that accompanied the disease. He could have, if he had made the private decision to end his life, have taken all of them at once and put into effect the decision he had made. The diagnosis for dementia is one that is made long before one loses the ability to make and carry out such self determinate decisions as well. Keep it a private matter and no laws are necessary. It is only when you wish to remove it from being a private matter, when you desire to bring others into the private matter, that it enters the realm of public scrutiny. There are many ways for you to peacefully end your own life, ways that require the assistance or complicity of no one else, if that is your wish. If you wait too long to carry out that wish, however, and require the assistance of someone else to carry out your wish, it is no longer a private wish, or a private matter. You have made the decision to share the wish, you have shared the matter - it is no longer private to you.

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09 Jun 2011 10:53 #34 by LadyJazzer
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"Once someone else enters into the decision making process, it is no longer a private matter bb, it is a public one."


No.... It isn't.... Particularly in Oregon....no matter how much you would like for it to be so.

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09 Jun 2011 11:30 #35 by PrintSmith
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Hence the need for a public law regarding a subject that has no societal relevance. I love progressive logic, don't you?

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09 Jun 2011 12:05 #36 by Martin Ent Inc
I think we should BAN Death.

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09 Jun 2011 12:26 #37 by archer
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Martin Ent Inc wrote: I think we should BAN Death.


I'm pretty sure pc already has

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09 Jun 2011 12:27 #38 by Martin Ent Inc
rofllol

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09 Jun 2011 12:32 #39 by bailey bud
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Don't kill yourself in any state other than Oregon --- you might get arrested.....

Truth is - the government's view is less relevant to me than the insurance company's view. I suppose that's really how it should work.

My insurance company does not recognize terminal illness - and so, if I die from any cause other than "Natural" - they're going to investigate, and likely deny payment.

The hysteria du jour crowd really doesn't have much to get all worked up about.

As long as I have dependents to worry about, assisted suicide isn't really an option, anyway.

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09 Jun 2011 12:44 #40 by Martin Ent Inc
Sherriff:" What is that corpse doing in my jail?"

Detective: "we think he commited suicide, a felony"

Sherriff: "OK so what now?"

Detective: "we are waiting on the prosecutor to file charges, till then we have to keep him on ice."

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