What is it that you do or don't like about the Tea Party?

Joe wrote: I am thinking of starting a Beer party. I like beer better. Really, have no problem with the tea party platform, I agree with about all of it I think.

I'm in. I expect my name is still on several plaques on the wall at McDini's and The Old Ocean Beach Cafe in San Diego for drinking my way through their beer cards. Still have a couple of mugs.

I also did post graduate work throughout the Pacific.

That is why you see me drink cheap beer now, my beer buds are burned out.

The Viking wrote: Here is just a part of what they stand for. Please explain which part of this you think is extreme?

The Tea Party movement is a grassroots movement of millions of like-minded Americans from all backgrounds and political parties. Tea Party members share similar core principles supporting the United States Constitution as the Founders intended, such as:
• Limited federal government
• Individual freedoms
• Personal responsibility
• Free markets
• Returning political power to the states and the people

As a movement, The Tea Party is not a political party nor is looking to form a third political party any time soon. The Tea Party movement, is instead, about reforming all political parties and government so that the core principles of our Founding Fathers become, once again, the foundation upon which America stands.

I agree with all of thT ( with a growing doubt about the free market-the bank meltdown showed thar some regulation is needed). My issues with the Tea party mostly stem from the demeanor of it's advocates. They are more about what they are against than what they are for. I get the feeling that winning is more important to them then the country as a whole. They expound individual freedom and states rights until those conflict with their personal beliefs. In other words, they act a lot like liberals. All feelings. Everything is about them.

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Seriously, I think the Tea Party movement is an indication of the fact that many are unhappy about the direction our country is heading, and a desire to get it back on track.

As a life long Republican my first reaction to the Tea Party is that it's a third party. Remember Ross Perot and his failed presidential attempt? For me an unproven third party is just going to further dilute the conservative vote. BTW, thanks Tom Tancredo for sabotaging the last Colorado Governors election. IMHO, party trumps person even when you need to hold your nose to vote for the candidate in your party.

As was said before, it's one thing to go on a rampage about the things you don't like, not proposing any solutions in a consistent manner frames the entire movement as a bunch of people with an axe to grind and no solutions. From my perspective the Tea Party needs to develop a firm platform and find some real conservative leaders before I can fully support them.

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Seriously, I think the Tea Party movement is an indication of the fact that many are unhappy about the direction our country is heading, and a desire to get it back on track.

I love Tom T Hall.....

otisptoadwater wrote: As a life long Republican my first reaction to the Tea Party is that it's a third party. Remember Ross Perot and his failed presidential attempt? For me an unproven third party is just going to further dilute the conservative vote. BTW, thanks Tom Tancredo for sabotaging the last Colorado Governors election. IMHO, party trumps person even when you need to hold your nose to vote for the candidate in your party.

As was said before, it's one thing to go on a rampage about the things you don't like, not proposing any solutions in a consistent manner frames the entire movement as a bunch of people with an axe to grind and no solutions. From my perspective the Tea Party needs to develop a firm platform and find some real conservative leaders before I can fully support them.

As far as I know the only tea party candidate on a ballot was a democratic ringer. If as I think the tea party is not running its own slate, what is your second reaction.

neptunechimney wrote:

otisptoadwater wrote: As a life long Republican my first reaction to the Tea Party is that it's a third party. Remember Ross Perot and his failed presidential attempt? For me an unproven third party is just going to further dilute the conservative vote. BTW, thanks Tom Tancredo for sabotaging the last Colorado Governors election. IMHO, party trumps person even when you need to hold your nose to vote for the candidate in your party.

As was said before, it's one thing to go on a rampage about the things you don't like, not proposing any solutions in a consistent manner frames the entire movement as a bunch of people with an axe to grind and no solutions. From my perspective the Tea Party needs to develop a firm platform and find some real conservative leaders before I can fully support them.

As far as I know the only tea party candidate on a ballot was a democratic ringer. If as I think the tea party is not running its own slate, what is your second reaction.

I'm not sure it is time to riot in the streets and overturn the existing Gubment just yet, clearly I don't have any allegiance or reverence to the current administration. At the same time I'm not finding a lot of what I want in any one individual Republican candidate on the ticket so far. Please allow me to point out it is still very early in the 2012 campaign trail to be getting behind any candidate, a lot of mud and "schtuff" will be flung between now and the election.

What I don't want is more of the same, every US Citizen has enough federal debt to deal with and the economics of the next 20 years (yes it's my opinion) will be hard to cope with.

Show me a candidate who has a viable plan to fix the economy, keep the homeland secure, and care for those who truly cannot work and you'll have my vote (yes I'm dreaming). Want to start riots in the streets and have a leaderless party? I'm not on board with that idea.

Well said.

otisptoadwater wrote:

neptunechimney wrote:

otisptoadwater wrote: As a life long Republican my first reaction to the Tea Party is that it's a third party. Remember Ross Perot and his failed presidential attempt? For me an unproven third party is just going to further dilute the conservative vote. BTW, thanks Tom Tancredo for sabotaging the last Colorado Governors election. IMHO, party trumps person even when you need to hold your nose to vote for the candidate in your party.

As was said before, it's one thing to go on a rampage about the things you don't like, not proposing any solutions in a consistent manner frames the entire movement as a bunch of people with an axe to grind and no solutions. From my perspective the Tea Party needs to develop a firm platform and find some real conservative leaders before I can fully support them.

As far as I know the only tea party candidate on a ballot was a democratic ringer. If as I think the tea party is not running its own slate, what is your second reaction.

I'm not sure it is time to riot in the streets and overturn the existing Gubment just yet, clearly I don't have any allegiance or reverence to the current administration. At the same time I'm not finding a lot of what I want in any one individual Republican candidate on the ticket so far. Please allow me to point out it is still very early in the 2012 campaign trail to be getting behind any candidate, a lot of mud and "schtuff" will be flung between now and the election.

What I don't want is more of the same, every US Citizen has enough federal debt to deal with and the economics of the next 20 years (yes it's my opinion) will be hard to cope with.

Show me a candidate who has a viable plan to fix the economy, keep the homeland secure, and care for those who truly cannot work and you'll have my vote (yes I'm dreaming). Want to start riots in the streets and have a leaderless party? I'm not on board with that idea.

Riots in the streets? If that is your conception of the tea party, then clearly we have different information inputs.
My understanding is they do not even litter.

otisptoadwater wrote:

neptunechimney wrote:

otisptoadwater wrote: As a life long Republican my first reaction to the Tea Party is that it's a third party. Remember Ross Perot and his failed presidential attempt? For me an unproven third party is just going to further dilute the conservative vote. BTW, thanks Tom Tancredo for sabotaging the last Colorado Governors election. IMHO, party trumps person even when you need to hold your nose to vote for the candidate in your party.

As was said before, it's one thing to go on a rampage about the things you don't like, not proposing any solutions in a consistent manner frames the entire movement as a bunch of people with an axe to grind and no solutions. From my perspective the Tea Party needs to develop a firm platform and find some real conservative leaders before I can fully support them.

As far as I know the only tea party candidate on a ballot was a democratic ringer. If as I think the tea party is not running its own slate, what is your second reaction.

I'm not sure it is time to riot in the streets and overturn the existing Gubment just yet, clearly I don't have any allegiance or reverence to the current administration. At the same time I'm not finding a lot of what I want in any one individual Republican candidate on the ticket so far. Please allow me to point out it is still very early in the 2012 campaign trail to be getting behind any candidate, a lot of mud and "schtuff" will be flung between now and the election.

What I don't want is more of the same, every US Citizen has enough federal debt to deal with and the economics of the next 20 years (yes it's my opinion) will be hard to cope with.

Show me a candidate who has a viable plan to fix the economy, keep the homeland secure, and care for those who truly cannot work and you'll have my vote (yes I'm dreaming). Want to start riots in the streets and have a leaderless party? I'm not on board with that idea.

Not sure where yoou get the rioting in the streets from. Show me a tea party gathering that has gotten violent and out of control. (I'll show you lots of union members who do just that)

As far as a leaderless party, I think thats a good thing as they are not really a party anyway but a movement imo. I think the Tea Party was a result of a bad candidate in 2008 which was the media choice and not the conservatiive choice. The Liberals loved Obama and conservatives had to hold their noses for McCain. To me, the Tea Party is just a wake up call for Republicans who are too worried about watching polls instead of sticking to principles.

As far as fixing the economy, the person who is the most willing to make the tough and needed cuts and help private sector employers would be the most successful (but less likely to be elected). It's tough to get the votes when you're tightening belts not promising to give away the store.