Yep....nothing new here.......If something good happens in the economy it's the Republicans in congress facilitating it.....if something bad happens it's Obama and Democrats causing it. Some things never change.
Rockdoc Franz wrote: just for the record. I do not believe that Obama created these jobs, certainly not mine.
No, Obama doesn't create any jobs. They admitted that yesterday. It is the policies created by congress that create an atmosphere where COMPANIES and the PRIVATE INDUSTRY can create jobs. So now that the Republicans control one of the houses and can stop the Dems failed policies, maybe employment will start to grow again. Let's hope so. This is a good start.
Press Secretary Jay Carney admits White House doesn’t create jobs
On Thursday, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney admitted to something conservatives have been saying all along: The White House does not create jobs.
“The White House doesn’t create jobs,” he said, adding “the government, together — White House, Congress — creates policies that allow for greater job creation.”
But Obama’s policies have had the exact opposite effect.
From TARP, to the bailouts and Obamacare, the President’s push for “shared sacrifice” has cost millions of jobs.
Now, at 9.2 percent, the U.S. unemployment rate is nearly twice that of Mexico with no sign of improvement.
President Obama now says he is “focusing” on job creation – perhaps for the seventh time in his short but painful stint in the White House.
His record on jobs is clear.
A graph posted at rove.com shows that Barack Obama has the second worst record on jobs since 1890, beat only by Herbert Hoover whose first two and a half years in office were during the Great Depression.
After the June jobs report was released, Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA) issued a statement noting that 2.5 million Americans have lost their jobs since Obama took office. Worse yet, the average person’s stay on unemployment is more than twice as long than at any point in the past 50 years.
As predicted, Viking is finding a way to blame Obama for not being responsible for the increase in jobs. :Whistle
THAT is what you got out of that? I was just responding to what RockDoc said and he is right. You are SO clueless and proving you lack of intelligence more every day. I didn't say this. Obama's Press Secretary Jay Carney did. SO blame him! I wish we had libs who could read and comprehend.
archer wrote: Yep....nothing new here.......If something good happens in the economy it's the Republicans in congress facilitating it.....if something bad happens it's Obama and Democrats causing it. Some things never change.
You know I have relatively little to say on politics, but I do read much of what is posted and frankly, both sides play the same game, seeking credit for something neither party has a right to claim. It was the private sector that created the jobs, not some bearocratic bungling. Would it not be truthful to give credit to the private sectors that actually managed to create a few new jobs? Screw all this political posturing and getting in front of the TV camera or microphone whenever something positive happens so you (rhetorical) can be associated with it. Personally, I'd love to have seen this thread continue on the vein it was on without the politics dragged into it. Let's cheer good news instead of degenerating a thread with the same old BS that creates divisiveness. JMO
edited to add: Please accept my humble apologies for even mentioning Obama (a mistake). My intent was to state that the private sector needs to be given credit.
archer wrote: Yep....nothing new here.......If something good happens in the economy it's the Republicans in congress facilitating it.....if something bad happens it's Obama and Democrats causing it. Some things never change.
It's sad that we have become a nation where only 83,000 below maintaining job growth is considered a good thing. The apathy in this country is amazing. This is an improvement but far from a good number. We are still going backwards. Not sure if you are comprehending that or not.
Rockdoc Franz wrote: just for the record. I do not believe that Obama created these jobs, certainly not mine.
No, Obama doesn't create any jobs. They admitted that yesterday. It is the policies created by congress that create an atmosphere where COMPANIES and the PRIVATE INDUSTRY can create jobs. So now that the Republicans control one of the houses and can stop the Dems failed policies, maybe employment will start to grow again. Let's hope so. This is a good start.
Press Secretary Jay Carney admits White House doesn’t create jobs
On Thursday, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney admitted to something conservatives have been saying all along: The White House does not create jobs.
“The White House doesn’t create jobs,” he said, adding “the government, together — White House, Congress — creates policies that allow for greater job creation.”
But Obama’s policies have had the exact opposite effect.
From TARP, to the bailouts and Obamacare, the President’s push for “shared sacrifice” has cost millions of jobs.
Now, at 9.2 percent, the U.S. unemployment rate is nearly twice that of Mexico with no sign of improvement.
President Obama now says he is “focusing” on job creation – perhaps for the seventh time in his short but painful stint in the White House.
His record on jobs is clear.
A graph posted at rove.com shows that Barack Obama has the second worst record on jobs since 1890, beat only by Herbert Hoover whose first two and a half years in office were during the Great Depression.
After the June jobs report was released, Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA) issued a statement noting that 2.5 million Americans have lost their jobs since Obama took office. Worse yet, the average person’s stay on unemployment is more than twice as long than at any point in the past 50 years.
As predicted, Viking is finding a way to blame Obama for not being responsible for the increase in jobs. :Whistle
Love to see you and archer and a few others having such an obsession with me but this thread is about jobs. Try to focus and stay on topic rather than making every other post about me. Including your first one before I had even posted. You made this thread about jobs and me. Not sure why? Love the crush you guys have but seriously, focus on the topics! This is about the jobs report and what it means for the country.
The Viking wrote:
THAT is what you got out of that? I was just responding to what RockDoc said and he is right. You are SO clueless and proving you lack of intelligence more every day. I didn't say this. Obama's Press Secretary Jay Carney did. SO blame him! I wish we had libs who could read and comprehend.
So now Viking is trying to UNSAY that he is trying to spin this be Obama's fault! And of course he didn't forget the obligatory "you are so stupid" insults he always resorts to when he is losing the argument badly. Watch for escalation of the insults in his next post....If he doesn't just stomp off in a huff. :woo hoo:
The Viking wrote:
THAT is what you got out of that? I was just responding to what RockDoc said and he is right. You are SO clueless and proving you lack of intelligence more every day. I didn't say this. Obama's Press Secretary Jay Carney did. SO blame him! I wish we had libs who could read and comprehend.
So now Viking is trying to UNSAY that he is trying to spin this be Obama's fault! And of course he didn't forget the obligatory "you are so stupid" insults he always resorts to when he is losing the argument badly. Watch for escalation of the insults in his next post....If he doesn't just stomp off in a huff. :woo hoo:
What is Obama's fault? You are rambling again. I know all you like to do is try and bait people with no real posts. But seriously, what am I trying to spin to be Obama's fault?
The Viking wrote: [Love to see you and archer and a few others having such an obsession with me but this thread is about jobs. Try to focus and stay on topic rather than making every other post about me. Including your first one before I had even posted. You made this thread about jobs and me. Not sure why? Love the crush you guys have but seriously, focus on the topics! This is about the jobs report and what it means for the country.
my, my.....I make one statement, which is true, and you think this thread is all about you? don't flatter yourself.
The very first thing posted by a conservative was this:
Yes, I think Obama should give another speech pronouncing his remarkable 9.1% unemployment rate. Lets party!
But seriously, it is good news in the face of a double dip possibility (a very real one).
Good news, I guess, must always be prefaced by a little snark about Obama.
I don't think the jobs report is anything to party about- the jobs numbers are being fudged in a positive direction by counting many temporary jobs and using all kinds of accounting tricks to make the numbers appear to be better than they really are.
The market reacted positive for a few minutes- but my guess is that as a few analysts got a little time to look at the details, the market lost all those gains.
That said- I'm glad for every person who is able to get a job in this environment, 28 million of us dont have one- or are underemployed. Millions more have stopped trying. I'm glad that RocDoc found a job, a task that is not easy these days but every individual has to keep pushing and scratch out what they can.
The government POLICY does have influence on the job market, and while government does not create jobs, the policy it sets can destroy them- and Obama and the democrats policies have destroyed millions of jobs. Some of the republicans are not helping either, but the left has destroyed more jobs in these last 3 years than I have ever seen in my life!
And- That's a fact jack!
And through all of this - I have maintained my job- but I'm not blind to what's going on out there. I talk to people every week who are hurting big time. I can seperate my own personal situation from what the economy is doing.
Back to topic........I find it encouraging that we have seen some increases in jobs......this economy needs all the positive news it can get. What I find concerning is that the rate of unemployment for the long term unemployed is little changed......these are the people most likely not to find employment. It was the number of short term unemployed that went down. Make of those numbers what you want, but I think we will only see improvement in the economy when the long term unemployed start getting jobs.
