Washington Examiner: 27% Of Dems Don't Want Obama In 2012

I'm really surprised Hillary isn't running. I think she would kill Obama in a primary, and depending on the rep candidate, win the presidency.

I don't know any democrats who think Obama is doing a good job. I can't even get any of the dems here to say what he is doing well (Wait, Wayne mentioned Healthcare).

If there were another Democratic or viable third party candidate, I will take a serious look at them.

I think Obama had the right ideas when he was running, he just carried them out really badly or didn't carry them out at all.

WayneH wrote: If there were another Democratic or viable third party candidate, I will take a serious look at them.

I think Obama had the right ideas when he was running, he just carried them out really badly or didn't carry them out at all.

True, it's call lack of leadership. Who knew? rofllol

RenegadeCJ wrote: I'm really surprised Hillary isn't running. I think she would kill Obama in a primary, and depending on the rep candidate, win the presidency.

I don't know any democrats who think Obama is doing a good job. I can't even get any of the dems here to say what he is doing well (Wait, Wayne mentioned Healthcare).

All true, and I'm sure it's killing Hillary not to run against him. I don't like her but she is much smarter and craftier and would destroy Obama...and probably win the presidency since she would be another "first" and strip many of the women voters from the middle and even some on the right.

Hilllary / Huntsman would be a landslide.

CriticalBill wrote:

WayneH wrote: If there were another Democratic or viable third party candidate, I will take a serious look at them.

I think Obama had the right ideas when he was running, he just carried them out really badly or didn't carry them out at all.

True, it's call lack of leadership. Who knew? rofllol

You guys would be criticizing Obama no matter how well he did. He could have solved everything and many of you would still find something to b*tch about, just because he's a Democrat.

WayneH wrote:

CriticalBill wrote:

WayneH wrote: If there were another Democratic or viable third party candidate, I will take a serious look at them.

I think Obama had the right ideas when he was running, he just carried them out really badly or didn't carry them out at all.

True, it's call lack of leadership. Who knew? rofllol

You guys would be criticizing Obama no matter how well he did. He could have solved everything and many of you would still find something to b*tch about, just because he's a Democrat.

Nah, if he had been the "change" he promised (no lobbyists, totally open, etc) I would have been ok with him if he had any clue how to help the economy. Problem is, he doesn't have a clue. I guarantee if the economy wasn't dangling over the precipice, but rather growing strongly with unemployment under 6%...very few people would care, and he would win the 2012 election by a landslide. Problem is, he has been in office for 3 years, with a full majority in both houses of congress for 2 yrs, able to pass pretty much anything he wanted, and still have no improvement in the economy?? Realistically, he should resign or not run again, saying "I just don't know how to fix this". That is what I would expect of a corporate CEO who came in promising to fix a company. If they spend 3 yrs (soon to be 4) without fixing the company, they should resign and let someone else try.

Honestly, as bad as the economy was when he took over, I don't think anyone would have been able to pull it out. It took years and years to get where we are. There's no quick fix, no matter what the conservatives tell you.

WayneH wrote: Honestly, as bad as the economy was when he took over, I don't think anyone would have been able to pull it out. It took years and years to get where we are. There's no quick fix, no matter what the conservatives tell you.

It would have been great to have a control group for the stimulus. If we hadn't saved the banks, Wall Street, and the auto industry, we would have had a major shock to the system but recovered quickly (hopefully). Much bigger fall, but steeper climb out, but Obama/Bush bailed the offenders out so the whole economy continues along flat.
It is like with Mike Shanahan after Elway left, 8-8 every year but no playoff wins. McDaniel crashes the team, and now maybe Fox will bring it back up.

WayneH wrote: You guys would be criticizing Obama no matter how well he did. He could have solved everything and many of you would still find something to b*tch about, just because he's a Democrat.

Well Wayne, from our particular point of view solving something from the perspective of a Democrat in many instances actually makes the original problem worse from the perspective of a Republican. I'm sure that if Obama had managed to solve the unemployment problem by nationalizing all the private industry of the nation there might even be a few Democrats who griped about his solution in addition to the whole of the Republican party. Solving the debt problem by deflating the value of our currency so that we can afford to pay back the loans with dollars that are worth much less than the dollars that were borrowed might indeed solve the problem while leaving a wide avenue open for criticism as well.

Now, if he solved the problems from a Republican POV, I'm sure there would be many Democrats who would feel justified in complaining as well, most likely yourself included since you feel the cures Republicans have for the problems of the nation are worse than the disease we are currently suffering from.

WayneH wrote: [
You guys would be criticizing Obama no matter how well he did. He could have solved everything and many of you would still find something to b*tch about, just because he's a Democrat.

No, I am rooting for the country. If Obama had answers that worked, I would vote for him.