Washington Examiner: 27% Of Dems Don't Want Obama In 2012

Management is doing things right: Leadership is doing the righ things. Peter Druker


Neither of which Obama has shown he can do.

WayneH wrote: Honestly, as bad as the economy was when he took over, I don't think anyone would have been able to pull it out. It took years and years to get where we are. There's no quick fix, no matter what the conservatives tell you.

Agreed, the economy was bad. Problem is, we aren't even going in the right direction. Many people think we are sliding back into a recession. If, after 3 yrs, we were getting some reasonable growth, and consumer confidence back, it would be a different story.

I never expected Obama to snap his fingers and have a good economy. Problem is, his policies and fixes just didn't work. Rumor has it, his new "economic plan" has more of the same. Didn't Einstein say "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." His powder is spent. Time to step aside and let someone else try.

And it doesn't look like it will get better. Obama just hired another professor to his economic team.

How about hiring someone with experience in business? Someone who has had to meet a payroll, instead of a guy who only works in theories.

WayneH wrote:

CriticalBill wrote:

WayneH wrote: If there were another Democratic or viable third party candidate, I will take a serious look at them.

I think Obama had the right ideas when he was running, he just carried them out really badly or didn't carry them out at all.

True, it's call lack of leadership. Who knew? rofllol

You guys would be criticizing Obama no matter how well he did. He could have solved everything and many of you would still find something to b*tch about, just because he's a Democrat.

I was actually happy to see Obama enter the race because I had seen some interviews with him and he "seemed" pretty smart but I never got a sense of his ideology. Once he knocked off Hillary and began to speak his mind, I became sceptical of his ability to fix the economy.

Then he spent his first year NOT focusing on jobs and the economy, but insted the health care bill that was was anything but transparent and did nothing to help unemployment which should have been his #1 priority. Now, three years later, he's finally focusing on jobs rofllol . Epic fail.

And wayne, I'm sure you're one of those blind sheep that assumes since he's black, that's the main reason for someone on the right to not like him...that would be your ignorance shining through. Just a guess.

WayneH wrote: Honestly, as bad as the economy was when he took over, I don't think anyone would have been able to pull it out. It took years and years to get where we are. There's no quick fix, no matter what the conservatives tell you.

And what, if not federal policy, was responsible for that bad economy? You think the solution to a problem caused by a government with too much power and authority lies in giving them more power and authority. I'm sorry Wayne, but that has only proven to make the problems worse. Not only is there not a quick fix when following that path, there isn't a slow fix either.

The fix is a decentralization of power at the federal level, not continuing to consolidate more power there. Certain powers must reside within the federal government. Defense, currency, foreign relations, clean air, clean water...all of that makes sense. It isn't these areas that are the source of the problem - it's all the areas the federal government has decided it should hold power outside of these things that cause the problems. Do you really think that the federal government should have the power and authority to tell a farmer how many acres of a certain crop they are allowed to grow and then be able to fine them and force them to destroy any crops in excess of that amount? Do you really think the federal government ought to be able to tell you that you have to purchase medical insurance? If so, do they also have the ability to force you to purchase life insurance, disability insurance, dental insurance, vision insurance and liability insurance? How about default insurance on every loan and credit card you take out?

Can they then also determine what percentage of your income has to be set aside for your retirement years in addition to the privilege taxes you pay to take care of those already retired? Can they force you to invest a certain amount of your income every year in a 401(k) or ROTH IRA in addition to mandating you purchase all of the above insurance and pay the privilege taxes to support those who have retired? Tell me Wayne, just how much power and authority over your life are you willing to entrust to the politicians in DC under the guise of "general welfare"? What percentage of the annual GDP of the nation is a "fair share" for the government in DC to expect from the citizens of the states? Is it truly whatever they decide they want to spend from your POV?

PrintSmith wrote: The fix is a decentralization of power at the federal level, not continuing to consolidate more power there.

"The fix" is uncertain. No one really knows for sure. There are many ideas of how to fix the problem. Unless you try every one, there's no way to know which one will actually work -- if indeed, any will.

WayneH wrote:

PrintSmith wrote: The fix is a decentralization of power at the federal level, not continuing to consolidate more power there.

"The fix" is uncertain. No one really knows for sure. There are many ideas of how to fix the problem. Unless you try every one, there's no way to know which one will actually work -- if indeed, any will.

Well, we've been trying more consolidation of power for the last 70 years, and here we are - broke, in debt up to our necks with the hole getting deeper and deeper every year. I say we give the other option a try for the next 70 and then see where we are. Couldn't be much worse than where we find ourselves currently and has the potential for us being a whole lot better off.

Indeed, things could be MUCH worse than they are now.

Ideas for solutions out of this are like noses. Everybody has one. (cleaned up for The Courthouse)

WayneH wrote: Indeed, things could be MUCH worse than they are now.

Ideas for solutions out of this are like noses. Everybody has one. (cleaned up for The Courthouse)

Problem is that the Democrats have ideas running out of their @#$es instead of their noses.

And the poor Republicans just don't have any ideas....at all...never have....sad really.