Another Obama Win

I seriously doubt that Obama will want to be known as a one term President. To voluntarily bow out after only four years is a very rare phenomenon. I'm positive that he will run - unopposed from the Dem side - and will win against whomever the Republicans nominate.

Kate wrote: I seriously doubt that Obama will want to be known as a one term President. To voluntarily bow out after only four years is a very rare phenomenon. I'm positive that he will run - unopposed from the Dem side - and will win against whomever the Republicans nominate.

The last guy who formally withdrew was LBJ, but some say W's dad "gave up" against Clinton and Perot. I would expect Obama to do that. Obama likes campaigning, much more than actually being President.

SS109 wrote:

Kate wrote: I seriously doubt that Obama will want to be known as a one term President. To voluntarily bow out after only four years is a very rare phenomenon. I'm positive that he will run - unopposed from the Dem side - and will win against whomever the Republicans nominate.

The last guy who formally withdrew was LBJ, but some say W's dad "gave up" against Clinton and Perot. I would expect Obama to do that. Obama likes campaigning, much more than actually being President.

How do you know that Obama likes campaigning more than governing? Is it something that Obama told you on the telephone last night or was it at lunch yesterday?

I doubt that Obama is going to give up. I predict that he will campaign charismatically, like he did four years ago, and people will forget all the reasons they didn't like him or are disappointed, just like they did in 2004 with Bush.

Kate wrote: I seriously doubt that Obama will want to be known as a one term President. To voluntarily bow out after only four years is a very rare phenomenon. I'm positive that he will run - unopposed from the Dem side - and will win against whomever the Republicans nominate.

Which shows he lacks character, as do most of our politicians. The used to "serve" the public. People who were willing to sacrifice to go serve a term or 2, then go back to their private lives and businesses. Now they sacrifice us so they can keep up their life of luxury.

He may win....$$ talks and he is supposed to spend the most ever on an election. Glad to know we will have the best president $$ can buy if he does. Problem is...if he can't solve, or at least begin to solve our problems in 4 yrs, what good will he do in another 4?

RenegadeCJ wrote: Problem is...if he can't solve, or at least begin to solve our problems in 4 yrs, what good will he do in another 4?

If he does nothing more than veto the outrageous bills/laws likely to come out of a possibly Republican congress I will be satisfied.

Kate wrote: I doubt that Obama is going to give up. I predict that he will campaign charismatically, like he did four years ago, and people will forget all the reasons they didn't like him or are disappointed, just like they did in 2004 with Bush.

People didn't forget Bush, Kerry was just a horrible opponent, and a horrible public speaker. Bush would have lost to someone who actually had a decent public presence. They also were living decent lives, wages were rising, unemployment was under 6%, jobs were available. Compare that to now. Terrible unemployment, sliding back into a recession, wages dropping. Those things you don't just "forget" about, you vote for something different. Right now the only "different" you will get is the republican ticket. Any vote for Obama is for 4 yrs of the same thing.

archer wrote:

RenegadeCJ wrote: Problem is...if he can't solve, or at least begin to solve our problems in 4 yrs, what good will he do in another 4?

If he does nothing more than veto the outrageous bills/laws likely to come out of a possibly Republican congress I will be satisfied.

You mean outrageous like making our entitlement programs fiscally sound? Like living within our means? Like passing a revised tax code that makes sense?

Guess you are assuming the reps will take over the senate too?

RenegadeCJ wrote:

Kate wrote: I doubt that Obama is going to give up. I predict that he will campaign charismatically, like he did four years ago, and people will forget all the reasons they didn't like him or are disappointed, just like they did in 2004 with Bush.

People didn't forget Bush, Kerry was just a horrible opponent, and a horrible public speaker. Bush would have lost to someone who actually had a decent public presence. They also were living decent lives, wages were rising, unemployment was under 6%, jobs were available. Compare that to now. Terrible unemployment, sliding back into a recession, wages dropping. Those things you don't just "forget" about, you vote for something different. Right now the only "different" you will get is the republican ticket. Any vote for Obama is for 4 yrs of the same thing.

You mean like people voting for "something different" in 2010 and getting nothing?

Kate wrote:

RenegadeCJ wrote:

Kate wrote: I doubt that Obama is going to give up. I predict that he will campaign charismatically, like he did four years ago, and people will forget all the reasons they didn't like him or are disappointed, just like they did in 2004 with Bush.

People didn't forget Bush, Kerry was just a horrible opponent, and a horrible public speaker. Bush would have lost to someone who actually had a decent public presence. They also were living decent lives, wages were rising, unemployment was under 6%, jobs were available. Compare that to now. Terrible unemployment, sliding back into a recession, wages dropping. Those things you don't just "forget" about, you vote for something different. Right now the only "different" you will get is the republican ticket. Any vote for Obama is for 4 yrs of the same thing.

You mean like people voting for "something different" in 2010 and getting nothing?

They voted for something different. They got what they wanted. They removed the unhealthy unchecked majority the dems had. That was phase 1. We'll see where phase 2 lies. The next move would be to admit when the democrats controlled both houses of congress and the presidency, nothing improved. Time to give the reps a chance (which scares me a little, since power corrupts, as both the dems and reps know). Hopefully some of the new tea party people with integrity will stay the course and get us back on the right track. Right now I'm unaware of any democrat who has any new ideas.

RenegadeCJ wrote:

archer wrote:

RenegadeCJ wrote: Problem is...if he can't solve, or at least begin to solve our problems in 4 yrs, what good will he do in another 4?

If he does nothing more than veto the outrageous bills/laws likely to come out of a possibly Republican congress I will be satisfied.

You mean outrageous like making our entitlement programs fiscally sound? Like living within our means? Like passing a revised tax code that makes sense?

Guess you are assuming the reps will take over the senate too?

It's a possibility, and I would surely like there to be some check on their crazy right wing methods. I actually have no problem with revamping the entitlement programs, living withint our means, and revising the tax code.....I have been calling for that for years. It's how the Republicans will do it that concerns me. It's been pretty obvious that taking a hatchet to SS, medicare and medicaid.....revising the tax code to benefit the wealthy and corporations, and balancing the budget on the backs of the middle class and poor are their main objectives. They scare me, pure and simple.....not the Republicans, the real Republicans are a more moderate bunch....but the Tea Party Republicans seem to want to destroy America in order to "fix" it, not build a better America. Their scorched earth approach could be devastating to our economy and to it's citizens. That was pretty evident when they threatened to allow America to go into default rather than compromise with Democrats.....their way, however misguided, or the highway. A Democrat as president is all we may have between the Tea Party and total ruination.