I chuckle, as I think about this issue in terms of evolution. It is one place too look for guidance as even government evolves. What you see is that wild ideas (ie. Obamacare, etc.), though well intentioned are equivalent to crazy evolutionary experiments in organisms. They survive for a period of time, perhaps even tens of millions of years, but ultimately ALL go extinct. Conversely, the conservative plan that made little or no change to a design that fit the environment well or have adapted very gradually persist for hundreds of millions of years. Taking that as my visionary guidance tells me that all those stupid crazy and evil SOB conservatives will have the last laugh. They evolve in tune with their environment rather than forcing a particular paradigm on environment no expense spared. Hence, the logical conclusion is they are granted long term survival. Stupid conservatives are smart enough to recognize this fundamental relationship on an innate level, whereas the intellectual liberal fails to even recognize the relationship at all. I'll not get flustered by name calling or any other thing the left wishes to level, since ultimately I'll be laughing last.
Yes, and the Canadian healthcare system has left them with an unemployment rate of 7%, and (as noted in another thread) are taking better care of their citizens and attracting disgruntled US citizens... (And I supposed you can try to delude yourself that all of those that are wanting to go there are capitalists who want to be "job-creators"...or "libs who want free healthcare", but we both know that neither extreme is the case....)
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I chuckle Rockdoc that you see liberals as the more extreme, when I see conservatives going to the extreme and beyond. It's all a matter of perspective. If you look back at evolution of man.....it was the working together, people forming communities, taking care of the children and the elders that brought about our civilized way of life. What I see from conservatives is a loss of that concern for their fellow community members, a desire to return to the times when only the "producers" get the spoils and the wealth, and other members of the community are expendable. Stupid conservatives....as you call them....are just that. stupid if they think that the people they try to suppress and disenfranchise will stay quiet for long. The history of man is fraught with strife, almost always over one group having something the other group does not. Conservatives might keep that in mind.
Wayne, your reference to metaphors is lost on the Left. They believe it means "using metamucil before getting on all fours."
archer, people banded together to survive, not form Odumbocare. Talk about oversimplified to an extreme.
HEARTLESS wrote: Wayne, your reference to metaphors is lost on the Left. They believe it means "using metamucil before getting on all fours."
archer, people banded together to survive, not form Odumbocare. Talk about oversimplified to an extreme.
Talk about missing the point......you can't even see it much less understand it. But its about what I would expect from someone who in 3 years still cannot spell the president's name.
archer wrote: I chuckle Rockdoc that you see liberals as the more extreme, when I see conservatives going to the extreme and beyond. It's all a matter of perspective. If you look back at evolution of man.....it was the working together, people forming communities, taking care of the children and the elders that brought about our civilized way of life. What I see from conservatives is a loss of that concern for their fellow community members, a desire to return to the times when only the "producers" get the spoils and the wealth, and other members of the community are expendable. Stupid conservatives....as you call them....are just that. stupid if they think that the people they try to suppress and disenfranchise will stay quiet for long. The history of man is fraught with strife, almost always over one group having something the other group does not. Conservatives might keep that in mind.
fist of all, man as a species hardly provides an evolutionary perspective. When I look at evolution it is from a paleontologic perspective spanning nearly a billion years. This is why you see the aberrant forms of mollusks called Rudists go to extinction, the same is true for a variety of other exotic phyla or sub phyla such as the eurypterids, archaeocyathids, trilopbites and ammoniods, This is how you get to see what is liberal and what is not. Man is currently a small branch that may or may not go extinct on a family level.
Your perspective on conservatives is fatally flawed. If you look at the tough times ahead thread you will see many conservatives as well as some liberals participating in a community oriented concern. Then again I do not see you participating since I expect you look to government to save your butt in crisis. Liberal do not own concern for children and family, they simply go about it on a personal rather than government fostered program level. And when the sh**t hits the fan next, us conservatives will still help you get on your feet so you can care for yourself again. We do look out for our neighbors, help them when its needed and try to stay out of their personal life when there is no need for help, something the liberals and our current administration might keep in mind. All of evolution is fraught with strife. This is why I look to my academic roots as a paleontologist for understanding on what works and what does not. Yes, I take a long term perspective for my guidance, not a few thousand years of history. Live long and prosper Lingula, a conservative brachiopod around for now 600+ million years.