Americans flee north to Canada for economic opportunity

Wow... So, income taxes in Canada are about 55%....and they have a 7% unemployment rate, universal health care, and take care of their citizens better. I can see why anyone would want to move there.

Yes... Good lessons to learn.

Yes- Canada has lots of jobs available right now because instead of investing billions in a green energy economy that is not economically viable - they have invested in oil drilling and tar sands, and nuclear power plants. They built nuclear power plants all along the border with the USA and sell that power to us at a big profit.

They do have a 55% income tax which supports universal health care but everytime a Canadian has a real health problem they start heading SOUTH for treatment. The wait times for things like heart problems means that an average Canadian could die waiting for treatment- so they come here with their money for the treatment.

Does that sound like they treat their citizens better? I don't know - maybe they do. With only 25 million people living in an area the size of the USA, they have much more natural resources per person and can afford to export those resources (like oil) to us.

Yes... Good lessons to learn.

Myth: Canadians are paying out of pocket to come to the U.S. for medical care.

Most patients who come from Canada to the U.S. for health care are those whose costs are covered by the Canadian governments. If a Canadian goes outside of the country to get services that are deemed medically necessary, not experimental, and are not available at home for whatever reason (e.g., shortage or absence of high tech medical equipment; a longer wait for service than is medically prudent; or lack of physician expertise), the provincial government where you live fully funds your care. Those patients who do come to the U.S. for care and pay out of pocket are those who perceive their care to be more urgent than it likely is.

Myth: Taxes in Canada are extremely high, mostly because of national health care.

In actuality, taxes are nearly equal on both sides of the border. Overall, Canada's taxes are slightly higher than those in the U.S. However, Canadians are afforded many benefits for their tax dollars, even beyond health care (e.g., tax credits, family allowance, cheaper higher education), so the end result is a wash. At the end of the day, the average after-tax income of Canadian workers is equal to about 82 percent of their gross pay. In the U.S., that average is 81.9 percent.

http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_12523427

Have some farmer freinds in BC, they say that the healthcare ain't that great. They take care of little stuff but that major things are a hassle.
Their grandparents come here for major medical as using the government plan there you need a lawyer to decifer what is covered. They also complain that they could buy newer equipment for the farm and newer vehicles if they weren't taxed to death.
Their daughter lives here and married a man here and is an American citizen now.
She always laughs and says that Americans should think about what they wish for, and the grass always seems better on the other side of the fence.

This has nothing to do with social programs, tax rates, or health care. It has to do with smart economic policies.

Canada has very solid mining, gas, and oil industries. The energy industry alone accounts for over 30% of the employment in Alberta. And with no end in sight for Athabasca that will probably last for decades.

Oh, and and add to that an effective forestry industry even when forestry in Canada has struggled in the last decade.
When I finished off the lower level of my house where did the beetle-kill pine come from? Colorado?

Nope, even with about a half million acres of standing beetle-kill in this state we still import it from Canada.

Martin Ent Inc wrote: Have some farmer freinds in BC, they say that the healthcare ain't that great. They take care of little stuff but that major things are a hassle.

I remember my friend from Calgary saying there was as months-long waiting list to get an MRI.

Maybe Obama's plan all along has been to turn the US into another Philippines where their biggest export is workers.

I remember my friend from Calgary saying there was as months-long waiting list to get an MRI.[/quote]

That and some sort of heart thing they were complaining about that they were able to get here in a matter of a couple weeks.
They also stated that the majority of medical facilities did not have all the equipment they need to be a full service medical center. Therefore the waiting lists and the Long drives or bus trips to get the needed treatments etc.

Here is a link to my comment. Look at the % of unemployed, under employed etc. and see the US parallels. http://www.pilipinasreporter.wordpress. ... hilippines ’-bigges
Then add in the Eco-nuts to return us to an undeveloped agrarian society and it all makes sense.

This has nothing to do with social programs, tax rates, or health care. It has to do with smart economic policies.

Canada has very solid mining, gas, and oil industries. The energy industry alone accounts for over 30% of the employment in Alberta. And with no end in sight for Athabasca that will probably last for decades.

Oh, and and add to that an effective forestry industry even when forestry in Canada has struggled in the last decade.
When I finished off the lower level of my house where did the beetle-kill pine come from? Colorado?

Nope, even with about a half million acres of standing beetle-kill in this state we still import it from Canada.

Very true. Can you imagine all the regulations involved in producing beetle-kill pine from here? You'd be in paperwork and regulations up to your ass for years!

Taxes are higher up there even though they have skyrocketed here in the last 25 years. If we are approaching tax rates equal to canada, that's our fault for allowing our government to eat us alive. When you combine state and provincial income taxes - your up north of 50%.

And the sad thing is by the time you combine all the taxes we pay here - it probably comes pretty close to 55% here as well. I posted a thread about the true cost of government that has the number pegged north of 60%.

Sad but maybe true.

Maybe Obama's plan all along has been to turn the US into another Philippines where their biggest export is workers.

I'd rather U.S. citizens work elsewhere and pay taxes than stay home and be on unemployment.