Firefighters Forced To Pay For Gear, Engine Fuel

They could built fire stations at every corner and man them with water drop helicopters.

They could have. I doubt that it would have done much of anything, other than have raised the cost of the loss.

Mother Nature can be a b*tch. There is no way we can ever be totally prepared for everything she can throw at us.

We can only be as well prepared as we can, and do whatever we can to help when the sh*t hits the fan.

This isn't really about what firefighters and ER responders really need is it LJ?

jf1acai wrote:

I'd rather make sure my local fire department has what it needs to fight fires and keep my insurance rate down.

Agreed.

Do you pursue that through citizen, local, and then state government involvement, or do you expect the Federal government to provide it?

That I think is the real point of contention here.

NOTHING has been said in relation to this story about the "Federal Government", except by the usual hysterical anti-tax, frothing-at-the-mouth rabid Righties.... This isn't about the Feds...It's about Gov. Good-Hair screwing his own state with his STATE budget cuts and leaving his fire fighters out to dry.

Becky wrote: This isn't really about what firefighters and ER responders really need is it LJ?

Why yes, it is... I don't remember reading in the article where it said that ALL of the units that were having to pay for their own gas, and buy their own equipment were volunteer units. Perhaps you could point that out to me.

NOTHING has been said in relation to this story about the "Federal Government", except by the usual hysterical anti-tax, frothing-at-the-mouth rabid Righties.... This isn't about the Feds...It's about Gov. Good-Hair screwing his own state with his STATE budget cuts and leaving his fire fighters out to dry.

I disagree. As I said before, this thread is

...making it a political football to discredit a governor who was trying to be responsible, rather than spending money he knew he did not have.

Some think he should have spent the money anyway, I disagree. I think that other approaches could be taken to ensure that fire fighters have the money they need to do their jobs. In a crisis, community members and local businesses are usually more than willing to assist. Assuming, of course, that they don't already have the mindset that the government will take care of it, and we don't have to worry about it.

I simply do not agree that the government is the only or best way to take care of local problems. Local jurisdictions should be equipped and trained to take care of local problems when they arise, through local support. When the problems become overwhelming, and local support has been exhausted, then yes, the government, be it state or federal, should step in, building upon and utilizing the expertise of the locals.

Which is the way emergency response has always been set up in the past.

Now, we seem to think that state and/or federal government should take care of everything, and I think that is wrong.

jf1acai wrote: [
I simply do not agree that the government is the only or best way to take care of local problems. Local jurisdictions should be equipped and trained to take care of local problems when they arise, through local support. When the problems become overwhelming, and local support has been exhausted, then yes, the government, be it state or federal, should step in, building upon and utilizing the expertise of the locals.

Where is the line between local government and local jurisdiction? isn't local government the local jurisdiction?

Negative. For instance, both Park and Jefferson counties have multiple local fire jurisdictions, some under city jurisdiction, some under county only.

jf1acai wrote:

NOTHING has been said in relation to this story about the "Federal Government", except by the usual hysterical anti-tax, frothing-at-the-mouth rabid Righties.... This isn't about the Feds...It's about Gov. Good-Hair screwing his own state with his STATE budget cuts and leaving his fire fighters out to dry.

I disagree. As I said before, this thread is

...making it a political football to discredit a governor who was trying to be responsible, rather than spending money he knew he did not have.

Some think he should have spent the money anyway, I disagree. I think that other approaches could be taken to ensure that fire fighters have the money they need to do their jobs. In a crisis, community members and local businesses are usually more than willing to assist. Assuming, of course, that they don't already have the mindset that the government will take care of it, and we don't have to worry about it.

I simply do not agree that the government is the only or best way to take care of local problems. Local jurisdictions should be equipped and trained to take care of local problems when they arise, through local support. When the problems become overwhelming, and local support has been exhausted, then yes, the government, be it state or federal, should step in, building upon and utilizing the expertise of the locals.

Which is the way emergency response has always been set up in the past.

Now, we seem to think that state and/or federal government should take care of everything, and I think that is wrong.

So, what I said was correct:

NOTHING has been said in relation to this story about the "Federal Government", except by the usual hysterical anti-tax, frothing-at-the-mouth rabid Righties.... This isn't about the Feds...It's about Gov. Good-Hair screwing his own state with his STATE budget cuts and leaving his fire fighters out to dry.

Unless, of course, you can point out where I said anything about the Federal Government... I await, breathlessly, your copy-and-paste example of where I did....

Another liberal outrage with no facts - just emotions.

You need more bran in your diet, RT.

Perhaps if you weren't constipated, you'd enjoy life more.