Carville to Obama

16 Sep 2011 09:02 #21 by Martin Ent Inc
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Elephants HATE taxi's, saw it in Nat Geo.

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16 Sep 2011 09:05 #22 by FredHayek
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WayneLeeH wrote: You honestly think if there are no government regulators then we'll have less irregularities by corporations?

What planet do you live on?


Nope, but I do believe federal regulators are easily duped and not very diligent. Like the towns that park empty police cars along the main drag to slow people down.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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16 Sep 2011 09:06 #23 by Wayne Harrison
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Just to nail down this smaller government with an analogy:

We all eat in the same cafeteria and 10% of all of us behind the counter cooking and serving the food and cleaning up the cafeteria. The other 90% are eating the food.

You'd like to see less workers behind the counter doing all those things so that they can be in the line to be fed, with the rest of us? You think less workers making the food and more people in line to eat is an improvement?

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16 Sep 2011 09:08 #24 by Martin Ent Inc
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Out of the 10% behind the counter in the govenment sector 5% are not working to full capacity.

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16 Sep 2011 09:11 #25 by BearMtnHIB
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We all eat in the same cafeteria and 10% of all of us behind the counter cooking and serving the food and cleaning up the cafeteria. The other 90% are eating the food.


You got it backwards wayne- what we need are 90% eating and 10% cooking and what we have is the other way around- we have 90% cooking for 10%.

We have too large of a government for what is really required- we had too large of a government in 2008 before the economy contracted, and it's 32% larger than 2008 today.

Too many cooks spoil the broth- and we have way way too many cooks!

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16 Sep 2011 09:13 #26 by Wayne Harrison
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Martin Ent Inc wrote: Out of the 10% behind the counter in the govenment sector 5% are not working to full capacity.



But they are getting a paycheck and that money is going into the economy.

When they are out of work, the government will be paying them anyway.

And HIB, the government doesn't employ 90% of the American workforce.

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16 Sep 2011 09:14 #27 by FredHayek
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WayneLeeH wrote: Just to nail down this smaller government with an analogy:

We all eat in the same cafeteria and 10% of all of us behind the counter cooking and serving the food and cleaning up the cafeteria. The other 90% are eating the food.

You'd like to see less workers behind the counter doing all those things so that they can be in the line to be fed, with the rest of us? You think less workers making the food and more people in line to eat is an improvement?


Your analogy is incorrect. Consider it this way, The federal goverment hire one million people at $20 an hour to open the doors for people on goverment buildings. Instead, if they didn't spend money on this project that people can do for themselves, they could create their own businesses or find more productive jobs that actually create something.
So much of the goverment is just duplication of what private industry or the state does better.
For example, I had to order this week some solutions from the National Institute for Standards. Private industry provides this cheaper and the price I was paying doesn't even count all the overhead the taxpayers are sending NIST.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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16 Sep 2011 09:19 #28 by Martin Ent Inc
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That's the problem WASTE the gov. likes it and so do you. Non-productivity costs the Real workers of America.

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16 Sep 2011 09:27 #29 by BearMtnHIB
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But they are getting a paycheck and that money is going into the economy.


So does every single private sector worker, the difference is that every dollar that gets paid to a government worker must first be taken OUT of the private sector economy - the real economy where a dollar is used most efficiently - do you agree?

Then it is spent in the least efficient manner known to man- by the government with all of it's waste, overhead, regulation and inefficiency. It (government) also creates a false economy with these dollars, with the government picking winners and losers instead of real market economics picking the winners and losers.

Don't ya think?

A private sector worker creates wealth - a government worker destroy's wealth.

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16 Sep 2011 09:38 #30 by HEARTLESS
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Wayne, everyone talks education, but how does our nation get stronger when we educate the foreign student and future competitor for out-of-state tuition? We have educated part of our own demise . Then union wages have driven away possible jobs here. Maybe the isolationist (Ron Paul) that is feared by the Left, is exactly what we need. Maybe the answer isn't continuing on the losing ground global economy path, but concentrating efforts here in our resource rich nation.

The silent majority will be silent no more.

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