Democrats Support Union Extortion

16 Sep 2011 14:28 #1 by outdoor338
If you owned a business and someone told you that they were going to prevent your business from operating unless you met their demands, wouldn’t that be a form of extortion?

According to one dictionary, extortion is defined as:

“The obtaining of property from another induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right.

Under the Common Law, extortion is a misdemeanor consisting of an unlawful taking of money by a government officer. It is an oppressive misuse of the power with which the law clothes a public officer.

Most jurisdictions have statutes governing extortion that broaden the common-law definition. Under such statutes, any person who takes money or property from another by means of illegal compulsion may be guilty of the offense. When used in this sense, extortion is synonymous with blackmail, which is extortion by a private person. In addition, under some statutes a corporation may be liable for extortion.”

Under the legal definition, when a union demands certain conditions for its members and if those demands are not met they will go on strike, shutting a business down, that amounts to extortion. Add to that mix, states that are not right-to-work states, and you have government endorsed extortion.

What is the difference between a union making demands on a business using the threat of a strike and the protection practices used by organized crime? The mob representatives tell business owners if they don’t pay a regular protection fee that something will happen to them or their business. Aren’t unions basically doing the same thing?

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16 Sep 2011 14:39 #2 by archer
It's not extortion when it's legal....we actually have collective bargaining laws in this country.

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16 Sep 2011 14:45 #3 by outdoor338
sure archer, and you're saying that Boeing is OK to move to SC? Many will not agree with you!

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16 Sep 2011 14:57 #4 by archer
I never much worried about who agrees with me and who doesn't.....what's your point?

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16 Sep 2011 15:23 #5 by outdoor338
so, do you think boeing has the right to open a new shop in SC?

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16 Sep 2011 15:33 #6 by Wayne Harrison
Are you for calling for the end to collective bargaining and unions?

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16 Sep 2011 15:35 #7 by archer
I'll have to get back to you on that for a definitive answer.....I really haven't read up on the situation. If, however, union members are losing jobs in WA so Boeing can move the plant to SC and hire cheaper workers, It may not be against the law, but it is morally wrong. IMHO. I would rather see the two parties work out their differences in WA. Or Boeing should offer the workers in WA those jobs in SC first.....I just think it sucks, be the workers union or not, that a company can hold workers hostage by moving the plant from higher wage states to lower wage states......is that any different than your claiming the unions are using extortion?

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16 Sep 2011 15:49 #8 by HEARTLESS
archer should really appreciate this similar story. http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.as ... yid=210762
Two key factors in the move are property tax dispute with Madison, county IL and need to lower labor costs. Can you say unfair law and collective bargaining equals collective unemployment.

The silent majority will be silent no more.

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16 Sep 2011 15:57 #9 by Nmysys
I happen to know of people who were in Washington and moved to Charleston, S. C. for those exact reasons, so maybe you should read up just a little more on that subject Archer. You would know one of them by screen name if I was to put it out here, but I won't.

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16 Sep 2011 16:25 #10 by archer

Nmysys wrote: so maybe you should read up just a little more on that subject Archer.


what do ya know.....that's exactly what I said I was going to do.

I'll have to get back to you on that for a definitive answer.....I really haven't read up on the situation.




This is what another thread here was all about, started by a conservative actually......you can't post an opinion....or even admit that you don't know the answer and don't have an opinion, without someone getting snarky about it.

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