Christie Not Running

05 Oct 2011 10:55 #61 by RenegadeCJ
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Conservative Voice wrote: I can't believe Romney is out in front still. He's a slick, millionaire politician who has nothing in common with the average citizen.


So you're saying he is basically Obama with business experience?

Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!

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05 Oct 2011 11:44 #62 by Wayne Harrison
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No, I'm not saying that.

I don't know if Obama was a millionaire when he became president. I do know he and Romney differ in their backgrounds as Obama wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He worked for what he has. It wasn't passed on from his father.

I don't think people give Obama enough credit for rising from his childhood of different fathers and moving around all the time to studying and graduating with such high marks, eventually becoming President of the United States. Regardless of your politics, somebody with that much determination should be admired.

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05 Oct 2011 12:42 #63 by RenegadeCJ
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According to Tax returns, the Obama's made $240K in 2000, increased slowly, then jumped to $1.6 mil in 2005, $983,826 in 2006, and bought a house for 1.65 million in 2005. I think that makes him a millionaire.

I give him credit for succeeding, but never having a real job, working 9-5 in the trenches keeps you from understanding what most of us do each day to survive. His work history, IMHO is weak.

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05 Oct 2011 13:36 #64 by FredHayek
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Conservative Voice wrote: No, I'm not saying that.

I don't know if Obama was a millionaire when he became president. I do know he and Romney differ in their backgrounds as Obama wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He worked for what he has. It wasn't passed on from his father.

I don't think people give Obama enough credit for rising from his childhood of different fathers and moving around all the time to studying and graduating with such high marks, eventually becoming President of the United States. Regardless of your politics, somebody with that much determination should be admired.


I totally agree that he rose from difficult circumstances, same with Clinton. Both men did appear to have mentors/angels who helped them rise above, but too many people given the same help blow it.

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06 Oct 2011 18:37 #65 by Wayne Harrison
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You've got to give Christie credit for wanting to finish his term and not quit in the middle of it.

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06 Oct 2011 18:49 #66 by jf1acai
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You've got to give Christie credit for wanting to finish his term and not quit in the middle of it.


Too bad Obama didn't do the same. Voting 'present' in the Senate has a lot less effect than doing so in the White House.

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06 Oct 2011 19:43 #67 by Wayne Harrison
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Here are the facts: According to reports by both The New York Times and the Associated Press, Obama voted "present" 129 times as a state senator. The AP reported that Obama said the votes represented a small portion — a little more than 3 percent — of the "roughly 4,000" votes he cast as a member of the state Senate.

The Illinois state Legislature allows members to vote "present" rather than "yes" or "no." The Times reported in December that "present" votes provide a way for lawmakers to voice opposition to an issue.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/09/obamas ... ve-record/

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06 Oct 2011 20:17 #68 by jf1acai
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The Illinois state Legislature allows members to vote "present" rather than "yes" or "no." The Times reported in December that "present" votes provide a way for lawmakers to voice opposition to an issue.


Of course, voting 'NO' does not allow that opportunity, and might be construed as actually having an opinion.

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06 Oct 2011 20:23 #69 by Wayne Harrison
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Wow, you guys complain about people mentioning Bush because it was so long ago but you don't mind mentioning Obama from the same period. Somehow, when you mention him, the same time rules don't apply.

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06 Oct 2011 20:31 #70 by jf1acai
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Nice deflection. How about coming up with some reasons why we should vote for Obama again?

So far, I haven't seen any reasons to vote FOR any of the potential candidates, just some reasons to vote AGAINST some of them.

I'm tired of the negativity, I would like to see something positive for a change.

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