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The Tea Party's objective was to remove some RINOs first of all and they accomplished that. The Republican party has been changed because of the TP and you can't deny that. They wanted the gross overspending to stop...and while that goal has not yet been accomplished, the debt has finally been put on the table for seriius discussion instead of just being ignored as usual. If they can force the Republican party to be more fiscally conservative, they can claim victory...and they did. They are not going to go away or let the pressure off RINOs.archer wrote:
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You completely bypassed my point...what's their objective? If they could "fix" the problem, what would that fix look like?archer wrote:
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In order for them to "win", they first need to have an coherent objective. If they just continue to scream and make a mess, people will just get tired of it all and start getting turned off. IMOGandhi once said of growing movements of social protestation, "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." The trajectory of the ever-evolving and growing Occupy Wall Street movement follows the same pattern almost to a "T," with slight variation.
CB....that is what we thought about the Tea Party with their cut cut cut spending (but no clear objective of what and how much) and their no no no no to everything both the Democrats and the Republicans were doing (to the point they wanted to bring our government to a halt, and damn the consequences). I think people are getting tired of it, and their influence will wane, IMHO. The Tea Party members may be better dressed, have more professional signs, (although I never did see tea bags hanging from straw hats as particularly professional) and the certainly have big money backers, but the OWS has the hearts of the little guy behind them, and there is strength in numbers, even if those numbers represent people and not dollars.
No, I explained that like the Tea Party, they really have no clear cut objective, other than to say what we have now isn't working. Sure they published a list of demands, and they are as pie in the sky as the Tea Party's demands. IMO
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archer wrote: You are aware that the Canada Free Press is an organization that would make Rush look like a flaming liberal.......maybe you can find something a little more believable.
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Really? Show me in the article where it says that - I call BS. There are only two mentions of George Goehl, the leader of the National Peoples Action:Occupy White House wrote: Occupy Wall Street is funded by a socialist group (National Peoples Action) started recently by the former founder of ACORN. Much of the funding of this event was provided by the OBama campaign, union political campaigns, and money.
This is a stage event.
Let's go to Canada press for the real story.... http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/41042
andLast year George Goehl, executive director of Chicago-based National People’s Action, said that “the banking crisis” was “the next big thing,” and “the way to build a big economic justice movement in this country.”
Which is a completely separate event.Goehl’s National People’s Action group is planning a “Make Wall Street Pay” event on November 3.
The Occupy Wall Street protesters who have been camping out in Lower Manhattan's Zuccotti Park since September 17 may be rallying against big-bank policies, but they've simultaneously needed an efficient method to fund their own efforts. To that end, they've turned away from large companies, instead working with start-ups in the online-payment and crowdfunding space.
The primary method employed by the protesters to collect donations has been through an account with WePay, an online payment-collection service start-up. Based in Palo Alto, California, WePay was founded in 2008 by Rich Aberman, a dissatisfied law student, and Bill Clerico, a disgruntled investment banker. The company's site bills itself as "taking the pain out of payments," and the site also allows donation-collection from the masses. Hero Vincent, a facilitator and informal PR representative for Occupy Wall Street, says that the group's online coffers have received a steady flow of donations from both domestic and international supporters through the site.
"We've had so much donated to the cause that we don't know what to do with it," Vincent said. "We've had donations for generators, we've had donations for food."
The loose group of activists who helped plan the beginning of the protest, which started at Bowling Green at the southern tip of Manhattan on September 17, made a WePay account back in the summer to raise $30,000 for the event. That's when WePay first heard of the protest plan, weeks before it had any on-ground presence or national-media attention, said Julia Kung. That first effort at fundraising collected $29,724.73...WePay's director of marketing. Kung stressed that WePay is apolitical.
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archer wrote: You really are digging deep into the conservative sources.....let us know when you get to the truth of it.
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