999 and it not producing enough revenue.

18 Oct 2011 07:16 #71 by TPP
http://www.ontheissues.org/default.htm Check out this site for seerate issues.


Barack Obama is a Hard-Core Liberal


Michele Bachmann is a Libertarian-Leaning Conservative


Herman Cain is a Hard-Core Conservative


Newt Gingrich is a Hard-Core Conservative


Jon Huntsman is a Centrist.


Gary Johnson is a Moderate Libertarian


Ron Paul is a Conservative-Leaning Libertarian.


Rick Perry is a Hard-Core Conservative


Mitt Romney is a Populist-Leaning Conservative


Rick Santorum is a Hard-Core Conservative

As Romney said, “ Anybody on this stage would be better then Obama.”

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18 Oct 2011 09:52 #72 by The Viking

TPP wrote: Did I miss something, does ANY of the other canidates, HAVE ANY other plan as of yet...
Perry said at the last debate, "Part of it will be out Tuesday." Did I miss it? Then another part will come out later, than another part later, (sounds just like oblama, "Trust me, mine's better than anybodies. Just pass the bill.")
Did I miss Anybodies? ANY Plan... Please fill me in.


But you can't just throw out any willy nilly plan that has a catchy phrase but doesn't make sense and will be used against us in a general election as hurting the poor and seniors and will get Obama re-elected. Heck anyone can throw out a plan. Perry's energy job creating plan makes the most sense to me so far. And he is meeting with several economic advisors and talking with Paul Ryan about his economic plan which is set to be announced next week. I love Paul Ryans economic plan of lowering all taxes and getting rid of the death tax and lowering corporate and capital gains taxes too. I hope Perry grabs on to a good portion of that.

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18 Oct 2011 09:55 #73 by The Viking

TPP wrote: http://www.ontheissues.org/default.htm Check out this site for seerate issues.


Barack Obama is a Hard-Core Liberal


Michele Bachmann is a Libertarian-Leaning Conservative


Herman Cain is a Hard-Core Conservative


Newt Gingrich is a Hard-Core Conservative


Jon Huntsman is a Centrist.


Gary Johnson is a Moderate Libertarian


Ron Paul is a Conservative-Leaning Libertarian.


Rick Perry is a Hard-Core Conservative


Mitt Romney is a Populist-Leaning Conservative


Rick Santorum is a Hard-Core Conservative

As Romney said, “ Anybody on this stage would be better then Obama.”



And I love how the left says Obama is a Moderate and kinda right. That really shows how far left they are!

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18 Oct 2011 10:20 #74 by Wayne Harrison
Cain has most to gain, lose at Las Vegas debate, say GOP strategists

“The national media spotlight is now squarely trained on him and the moderators and viewing audience will be looking for the gravitas necessary for a President,” he said. “GOP voters who are clearly starting to warm up to him as well as those large swaths of undecideds will be watching closely and waiting for him to demonstrate more nuanced policy depth on both the economy and foreign affairs.”

But, Dunagan went on, “if he doesn’t accomplish that, it could be a bad night for Mr. Cain.”

“For some the bloom is off the rose as more and more people are scrutinizing his policy positions including his 9-9-9 plan,” long-time Republican consultant Diana Banister told TheDC, also noting that Cain showed some weakness on foreign policy during his Sunday interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “How Herman handles it will be important, but in his poised style he is rarely moved off his game.”

Other than Cain, Banister says that former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum could gain if they continue to deliver solid debate performances.

“Because of their performances in these debates,” she said, Gingrich and Santorum “seem to be gradually and methodically rising in the polls and gaining momentum.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/17/cain- ... rategists/

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19 Oct 2011 06:52 #75 by TPP
Mr. Cain, needs to explain, to everybody how 9-9-9 works in detail. Because it's such a BOLD NEW IDEA People can't understand it! Take each 9% and explain what they mean, in detail. He's tried but folks aren't listening.
And he better start soon. (Get his advisories out there taking this plan up it will work, but people are afraid of change.)
http://www.hermancain.com/docs/999-for-web-10-12.pdf
http://www.hermancain.com/docs/999_Scoring_Tables.pdf
http://www.hermancain.com/docs/999_Scoring_Report.pdf

EDITED:And we've ALL seen how well that change has worked for us so far, so I understand they're fear.

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19 Oct 2011 08:14 #76 by Wayne Harrison
For everyone who thinks Herman Cain's 9-9-9 plan is good. Just look at an independent analysis of his 9-9-9- plan by The Tax Policy Center. It shows Cain's plan would increase taxes on 84 percent of U.S. households, hitting low- and medium-income households the hardest. The analysis shows that households making $10,000 to $20,000 would see whopping tax increases averaging $2,705! An increase of nearly 950 percent. While the wealthiest would Americans would see a decrease.

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19 Oct 2011 08:43 #77 by pineinthegrass
Here is the report by the nonpartisian Tax Policy Center:

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxtopics/Cain-9-9-9-plan.cfm

Their report looks at all three of Cain's taxes; the 9% income tax, the 9% business tax, and the 9% national sales tax.

In summary, if you make under $200K, you'll see a net tax increase on average. Over $200K you'll see a tax decrease. Again, this takes all three taxes into consideration.

http://taxpolicycenter.org/numbers/displayatab.cfm?Docid=3221&DocTypeID=1

If he sticks to this plan, he'll just keep getting hammered on it. From what I've heard his main suggestion to cut your taxes with his plan is to buy used goods. But what would that do to job creation?

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19 Oct 2011 10:36 #78 by FredHayek

pineinthegrass wrote: Here is the report by the nonpartisian Tax Policy Center:

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxtopics/Cain-9-9-9-plan.cfm

Their report looks at all three of Cain's taxes; the 9% income tax, the 9% business tax, and the 9% national sales tax.

In summary, if you make under $200K, you'll see a net tax increase on average. Over $200K you'll see a tax decrease. Again, this takes all three taxes into consideration.

http://taxpolicycenter.org/numbers/displayatab.cfm?Docid=3221&DocTypeID=1

If he sticks to this plan, he'll just keep getting hammered on it. From what I've heard his main suggestion to cut your taxes with his plan is to buy used goods. But what would that do to job creation?


:lol: Which is it? The new taxes will bankrupt those under 200K or it won't produce enough revenue? If hundreds of millions of Americans are paying more taxes, it looks like it would increase revenue for the treasury.

Irony? Could Herman Cain(R) be the mastermind behind the largest tax revenue increase in decades?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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19 Oct 2011 11:18 #79 by TPP
Maybe this will help...

Cain's Stimulating '9-9-9' Tax Reform
A new sales tax could be raised in the future—but so can any other tax. And the low marginal rates would jump-start the economy.
By (*)ARTHUR B. LAFFER

It used to be that the sole purpose of the tax code was to raise the necessary funds to run government. But in today's world the tax mandate has many more facets. These include income redistribution, encouraging favored industries, and discouraging unfavorable behavior.
To make matters worse there are millions and millions of taxpayers who are highly motivated to reduce their tax liabilities. And, as those taxpayers finagle and connive to find ways around the tax code, government responds by propagating new rules, new interpretations of the code, and new taxes in a never-ending chase. In the process, we create ever-more arcane tax codes that do a poor job of achieving any of their mandates.
Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain's now famous "9-9-9" plan is his explicit proposal to right the wrongs of our federal tax code. He proposes a 9% flat-rate personal income tax with no deductions except for donations to charity; a 9% flat-rate tax on net business profits; and a new 9% national tax on retail sales.
Mr. Cain's 9-9-9 plan was designed to be what economists call "static revenue neutral," which means that if people didn't change what they do under his plan, total tax revenues would be the same as they are under our current tax code. I believe his plan would indeed be static revenue neutral, and with the boost it would give to economic growth it would bring in even more revenue than expected.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204346104576637310315367804.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

*Arthur Betz Laffer ( /ˈlæfər/;[1] born August 14, 1940) is an American economist who first gained prominence during the Reagan administration as a member of Reagan's Economic Policy Advisory Board (1981–1989). Laffer is best known for the Laffer curve, an illustration of the theory that there exists some tax rate between 0% and 100% that will result in maximum tax revenue for governments. He is the author and co-author of many books and newspaper articles, including Supply Side Economics: Financial Decision-Making for the 80s. Laffer is Policy Co-Chairman (with Lawrence "Larry" Kudlow) of the Free Enterprise Fund.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Laffer

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19 Oct 2011 11:33 #80 by Wayne Harrison
Look, we all know the federal government. No matter who is in charge, they're never satisfied.

9-9-9 would become 10-10-10 and then 11-11-11.

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