I am Obamacare....

21 Oct 2011 22:29 #41 by Wayne Harrison
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That would be a "Do your own homework."

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21 Oct 2011 22:51 #42 by Blazer Bob
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Conservation Voice wrote: That would be a "Do your own homework."



I never made an assertion. I posted a link and asked a question. You answered with two links. I asked if there was something in those links that answered my question. Now you deflect. Kind of like providing a google link to 5 million hits.

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21 Oct 2011 22:59 #43 by Wayne Harrison
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No, it's not "kinda like" providing a google link.

One link I posted was to the woman's blog -- the woman in the picture. The second link was to the link she provided when she mentioned the subject you asked about.

I didn't make the sign or the assertions. I posted the photo (which contained the URL of her blog with the photo). You said the service wasn't available until 2014. Her link shows it's available now. But you won't even admit you were wrong. You come up with another lame-a** question instead of acknowledging you were wrong.

If you want to know more about it, I'm suggesting you ask the person who made the sign. I don't know her life story or the steps she went through. I don't even know her.

She would be the obvious person to ask, but you've got to play your little game with me.

If you've got questions, I've given you the means to get them answered. That's all I can do. I can't understand it for you, too.

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21 Oct 2011 23:06 #44 by Blazer Bob
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Conservation Voice wrote: You said the service wasn't available until 2014. Her link shows it's available now. But you won't even admit you were wrong. You come up with another lame-a** question instead of acknowledging you were wrong.


If it ever happens, I will admit it. The item in question is whether her ins. is because of Obama care. Not if it is available before Obama care kicks in wrt pre existing conditions for adults.

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21 Oct 2011 23:12 #45 by archer
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This is from healthcare.gov regarding the pci plans

Since March 2010, the health care law has already helped 1 million additional young adults receive health coverage. In 18 short months, countless other Americans, including seniors, women, and children, have already begun to benefit from the Affordable Care Act.


So yeah, Obama care seems to be helping people already. Why does that bother you so much?

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21 Oct 2011 23:15 #46 by archer
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More info

As a result of the federal Affordable Care Act of 2010, California has a contract with the federal Department of Health and Human Services to establish a federally-funded high risk pool program to provide health coverage for eligible individuals. The program will last until December 31, 2013 when the national health reform is set to begin. After that date, there will no longer be a need for high risk pools because federal rules will not allow insurers to reject persons with pre-existing conditions or charge them higher rates than those without such conditions.

http://www.pcip.ca.gov/Home/default.aspx

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21 Oct 2011 23:16 #47 by Wayne Harrison
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This was your original question, which I answered by providing a link showing it is available now, long before your 2014 date.

neptunechimney wrote: According to this federal PCIP for adults does not kick in untill 2014. Anyone?

"Thanks to the Affordable Care Act, we have already prohibited these practices for children and by 2014 that will be the law of the land for all Americans. But if efforts in Congress to repeal the health law succeed, all those freedoms will be wiped away."

http://www.healthcare.gov/law/features/ ... index.html



Then you asked:

Conservation Voice wrote:
http://pciplan.com/

(link from the woman's blog)

http://giveneyestosee.com/blog/


Did you see something at those links that indicated that she was unable to obtain insurance until Obama care passed?

Conservation Voice wrote: pciplan.com/

(link from the woman's blog)

http://giveneyestosee.com/blog/


Did you see something at those links that indicated that she was unable to obtain insurance until Obama care passed?


And my answer is no. If she was able to obtain insurance with a pre-existing condition before Obamacare, I'm not sure why she'd be making a sign thanking him for getting it passed. But again, you'd have to ask her, which you won't do.

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21 Oct 2011 23:19 #48 by Blazer Bob
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archer wrote: This is from healthcare.gov regarding the pci plans

Since March 2010, the health care law has already helped 1 million additional young adults receive health coverage. In 18 short months, countless other Americans, including seniors, women, and children, have already begun to benefit from the Affordable Care Act.


So yeah, Obama care seems to be helping people already. Why does that bother you so much?


You are putting words in my mouth that I did not say and then ask me to respond. No thanks.

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21 Oct 2011 23:22 #49 by archer
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:rofl

It's OK neptune, no one expects you to admit you were wrong......and you don't have to thank me for finding the answer to your question

But the info was easily available if you would have taken the time to look for it, instead you chose to get snarky, so it sure seemed like it bothered you.

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21 Oct 2011 23:27 #50 by Blazer Bob
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Conservation Voice wrote: This was your original question, which I answered by providing a link showing it is available now, long before your 2014 date.

neptunechimney wrote: According to this federal PCIP for adults does not kick in untill 2014. Anyone?

"Thanks to the Affordable Care Act, we have already prohibited these practices for children and by 2014 that will be the law of the land for all Americans. But if efforts in Congress to repeal the health law succeed, all those freedoms will be wiped away."

http://www.healthcare.gov/law/features/ ... index.html



Then you asked:

Conservation Voice wrote:
http://pciplan.com/

(link from the woman's blog)

http://giveneyestosee.com/blog/


Did you see something at those links that indicated that she was unable to obtain insurance until Obama care passed?

Conservation Voice wrote: pciplan.com/

(link from the woman's blog)

http://giveneyestosee.com/blog/


Did you see something at those links that indicated that she was unable to obtain insurance until Obama care passed?


And my answer is no. If she was able to obtain insurance with a pre-existing condition before Obamacare, I'm not sure why she'd be making a sign thanking him for getting it passed. But again, you'd have to ask her, which you won't do.


I never asked why she would make the sign if what it said was not true. I asked about the discrepancy. Since it seems that we (you archer and myself) all agree that her situation is not related to the passing of Obama care, the answer is obvious.

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