How Much Longer?

22 Oct 2011 11:00 #1 by Rick
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How much more time will the media spend covering the OWS protesters given the continued lack of focus and ever growing irritation to the local residents? I think these people will get less and less coverage (except by the joke called MSNBC)...and I see the only option for protesters will be to start committing violent destructive acts like the morons in Greece, otherwise they will just fade away like a bad actor.

Thoughts?

The left is angry because they are now being judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

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22 Oct 2011 13:20 #2 by otisptoadwater
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Winter is coming and I bet when the cold sets in the OWS crowds in the northerly climes will thin out. I have to believe that the generosity of others who are supplying them with food, clothes, and other items will dry up soon to. Charity should go to those who have no other means to survive not unmotivated, able bodied people who are fully capable of getting jobs and supporting themselves.

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus

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22 Oct 2011 14:03 #3 by The Boss
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I think it might be good to focus on the issues at hand and come up with some kind of solution for our country.

Because (in LJ style):
1) we don't want to restrict protest
2) we don't want to restrict media coverage
Both would be bad or worse than pissing off some locals.

Yeah, I think we should try and figure out why there is so much unrest and do something about picking better leaders so they can help us make better systems of government, large or small. Then we wont have to talk about people being bothered by people that are upset or speculating on who can hold out longer in cold weather.

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22 Oct 2011 14:06 #4 by Arlen
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The right to protest that is protected in the Constitution by several provisions is the right of protest/demonstrate against the government, not the private sector. To date, the OSW has not demonstrated against the government. They cannot entertain any right of protest during all of these "camp-ins".

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22 Oct 2011 14:15 #5 by Soulshiner
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They won't need to protest forever. The ideas that have been introduced are now part of the national conversation. The messages have been broadcast and they have been successful in getting even some of the Republican candidates to bend towards their reasons for being there in the first place. They are already affecting the 2012 elections.

http://rightwingnews.com/republicans/fl ... s-premise/

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22 Oct 2011 14:20 #6 by archer
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Arlen wrote: The right to protest that is protected in the Constitution by several provisions is the right of protest/demonstrate against the government, not the private sector. To date, the OSW has not demonstrated against the government. They cannot entertain any right of protest during all of these "camp-ins".


Really? the people of the United States don't have the right to protest anything but the government? Where does it say that?

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22 Oct 2011 15:43 #7 by otisptoadwater
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Citizens have the right to assemble peaceably; if the OWS crowd was peaceable there wouldn't need to be a police presence at any of these protests. Laws and ordinances are being violated and the OWS crowd insists that they have the right to be where they are and continue to do what they are doing.

Economic times are as bad as they have been in a very long time, I understand the frustration that everyone has with unemployment, high interest rates, and the ever increasing costs of energy and housing. I have no issue with people speaking out against banks and businesses but it makes more sense to me to use that energy to go find gainful employment and improve my own lot. I am accountable for myself and my well being, thinking that it's the government's job won't produce the desired result.

Vote and know who you are voting for, spend some time learning about the candidates and their party. If your candidates in the 2012 election don't include realistic plans for fixing the economy, reversing unemployment, and reducing the deficit in their platforms then I think you need to make another choice. Increasing taxes on the richest citizens, extending unemployment benefits, and increased government spending are not solutions.

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus

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22 Oct 2011 17:58 #8 by Soulshiner
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I believe the police are present at every protest or large crowd gathering. I wouldn't say that the OWS is not being peaceable. There is no violence or mob vandalism.

Official unemployment is high. Many people have been searching for work for a year or longer. Banks are getting huge taxpayer bailouts while their crimes go uncharged. Businesses are sitting on a pile of cash and shipping jobs overseas. Executives are getting huge payouts while they layoff thousands of workers. And your solution for those protesting is to get off their ass, stop complaining, and go and find gainful employment...

When you plant ice you're going to harvest wind. - Robert Hunter

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22 Oct 2011 18:00 #9 by Arlen
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Soulshiner wrote: They won't need to protest forever. The ideas that have been introduced are now part of the national conversation. The messages have been broadcast and they have been successful in getting even some of the Republican candidates to bend towards their reasons for being there in the first place. They are already affecting the 2012 elections.

http://rightwingnews.com/republicans/fl ... s-premise/

You are dreaming. Or maybe smoking weed.

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22 Oct 2011 18:02 #10 by Arlen
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archer wrote:

Arlen wrote: The right to protest that is protected in the Constitution by several provisions is the right of protest/demonstrate against the government, not the private sector. To date, the OSW has not demonstrated against the government. They cannot entertain any right of protest during all of these "camp-ins".


Really? the people of the United States don't have the right to protest anything but the government? Where does it say that?

The Consititution deals with the limitations of government. Nothing else. Your childish assumptions about it relating to all areas of human events is uneducated.

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