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10 Nov 2011 15:59 #71 by Wayne Harrison

Fast and Furious was part of Project Gunrunner, a broad A.T.F. program aimed at stemming the flow of guns to criminal groups in Mexico. Since it began in 2006, Gunrunner has seized more than 10,000 firearms and led to the arrests of more than 800 suspects.

In 2009, A.T.F.’s Phoenix office began Fast and Furious, in which agents monitored but did not disrupt the sale of guns from American stores to suspected “straw purchasers,” people who obtain guns for criminal organizations. The goal was to track the guns to a major drug cartel.


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/16/us/16guns.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/15/us/po ... 5guns.html

Yeah, the NRA smear comment sounds familiar because I made it. I was talking about the NRA claiming Holder and Justice intentionally gave guns to Mexican drug cartels in order to restrict the rights of gun owners in the U.S. The intent was to track the sales of guns by by gun dealers along the U.S. border to determine who is selling guns to Mexican drug cartels. The NRA launched a smear campaign to keep Justice from being able to do that.

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10 Nov 2011 16:05 #72 by HEARTLESS
Listen to the testimony given by DOJ and BATFE. They were able to follow one gun for a couple hours, but allowed hundreds to go that they have no idea where they went. Two Federal Agents died as a direct result of this corrupt program. But don't actually look into any of it, just keep denying.

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10 Nov 2011 16:10 #73 by Wayne Harrison

“Watch the video and see how Eric Holder’s lies are destroying freedom and costing lives. Please make a donation to help NRA-ILA air this video across America. And please, forward this video to family and friends!”

The group’s outrage over guns getting into the hands of the bad guys under Fast and Furious would be slightly more plausible if the NRA ever expressed any concern about U.S. gun laws that effectively armed the Mexican drug cartels with heavy weaponry.

The NRA’s critics note that the powerful gun lobby, based in northern Virginia, has essentially accomplished the same evil as Fast and Furious by lobbying hard — and taking legal action if necessary — to water down tough U.S. gun laws and regulations. The NRA is particularly determined to undermine its nemesis, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which enforces gun laws.

The NRA has adamantly fought ATF regulations that require gun dealers in four Southwest border states to report sales of two or more assault weapons to one person within five days. The NRA also helped derail the confirmation of Obama nominee Andrew Traver for director of ATF, which has been in dire need of stability. The NRA opposes strict handgun control laws in such cities as Washington that have high rates of gun violence.

“I think the NRA has to have something to scare their members about and attacking Obama and more specifically Holder is part of that plan,”said Kristen Rand, legislative director for the Violence Policy Center in Washington.


http://www.salon.com/2011/11/10/the_nra ... singleton/

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10 Nov 2011 16:24 #74 by Wayne Harrison

“The American public needs to know the whole truth on this,” said NRA president Wayne LaPierre in a video last June. “The fact is, that brings us to the consequences, these guns are now, as a result of what they did, in the hands of evil people and evil people are committing murders and crimes with these guns against innocent citizens.”


The whole truth is that lax U.S. gun laws -- supported by the NRA -- are what have helped the Mexican drug cartels to arm themselves and slaughter law enforcement officers, rivals and innocent people.

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10 Nov 2011 16:29 #75 by HEARTLESS
BS dumba$$. The guns acquired in the raids have been mostly military, not civilian arms. This horrendously failed program provided civilian guns, approved by BATFE in recorded phone conversations with the dealers in the border states, to known straw purchasers.

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10 Nov 2011 16:36 #76 by Wayne Harrison
I wondered when you'd resort to name calling.

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10 Nov 2011 16:42 #77 by HEARTLESS
When you continually show your complete ignorance of something.

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10 Nov 2011 16:46 #78 by Wayne Harrison
Always blame somebody else for your actions. Never accept responsibility.

Got it.

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10 Nov 2011 16:48 #79 by Martin Ent Inc
You are pretty ignorant Wayne-O.

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10 Nov 2011 16:48 #80 by HEARTLESS
I call you what you are, good enough for you ignorant one?

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