Obama really does believe he is above the law

04 Nov 2011 17:47 #1 by The Viking
Obama really does believe he is above the law doesn't he? He refuses to show how he is wasting our money on bankrupt companies, and then the next sentence he is telling us he wants us to give him more money! Are you kidding me?

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer. ... yndra-docs

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04 Nov 2011 18:01 #2 by otisptoadwater
Isn't that the standard Democrat MO? Tax and spend, tax and spend. What? The deficit is growing and the Gubment is taking in less money? Time to increase taxes so we can spend our way out of this mess and get re-elected!

I'll be interested to see where we are a year from now, IMHO Barry is going to need to pull a dozen or more miracles out of his posterior to even have a chance of getting re-elected between now and then. Four more years of tax and spend is not what the nation needs, let's elect someone who will deliver a smaller government, responsible spending, creating an environment that attracts business and creates jobs in the US!

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges; When the Republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous. - Publius Cornelius Tacitus

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04 Nov 2011 18:07 #3 by The Viking

otisptoadwater wrote: Isn't that the standard Democrat MO? Tax and spend, tax and spend. What? The deficit is growing and the Gubment is taking in less money? Time to increase taxes so we can spend our way out of this mess and get re-elected!

I'll be interested to see where we are a year from now, IMHO Barry is going to need to pull a dozen or more miracles out of his posterior to even have a chance of getting re-elected between now and then. Four more years of tax and spend is not what the nation needs, let's elect someone who will deliver a smaller government, responsible spending, creating an environment that attracts business and creates jobs in the US!


You know how he is going to get re-elected. They came out today saying Iran is the most dangerous threat to the US in the Middle East. Obama will stip in with a last minute attack of some sort on them to claim he saved Israel and it will give him a big boost even though it is all for show. Maybe he will fire missles into a glue factory like Clinton did to try and act tough.

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04 Nov 2011 18:16 #4 by Wayne Harrison

The Viking wrote: Obama really does believe he is above the law doesn't he? He refuses to show how he is wasting our money on bankrupt companies, and then the next sentence he is telling us he wants us to give him more money! Are you kidding me?

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer. ... yndra-docs


All presidents do this. How is this any different from Bush ignoring subpoenas? Did he think he was above the law, too?


White House refuses to answer subpoenas


updated 6/28/2007 10:51:36 AM ET 2007-06-28T14:51:36
WASHINGTON — President Bush, moving toward a constitutional showdown with Congress, asserted executive privilege Thursday and rejected lawmakers' demands for documents that could shed light on the firings of federal prosecutors.

Bush's attorney told Congress the White House would not turn over subpoenaed documents for former presidential counsel Harriet Miers and former political director Sara Taylor. Congressional panels want the documents for their investigations of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales' stewardship of the Justice Department, including complaints of undue political influence.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19480518/ns ... subpoenas/

A Long-Lived Privilege?

Just four days before he left office, President Bush instructed former White House aide Karl Rove to refuse to cooperate with future congressional inquiries into alleged misconduct during his administration.

On Jan. 16, 2009, then White House Counsel Fred Fielding sent a letter (.pdf) to Rove's lawyer, Robert Luskin. The message: should his client receive any future subpoenas, Rove "should not appear before Congress" or turn over any documents relating to his time in the White House. The letter told Rove that President Bush was continuing to assert executive privilege over any testimony by Rove—even after he leaves office.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2 ... ilege.html

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04 Nov 2011 18:24 #5 by chickaree
So because Bush did it it's alright? Will we ever raise our standards or just continue the race to the bottom?

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04 Nov 2011 18:24 #6 by Martin Ent Inc
How come this is in the sports forum?

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04 Nov 2011 18:27 #7 by chickaree
Because we're just kicking the ball down the road?

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04 Nov 2011 18:28 #8 by Wayne Harrison

chickaree wrote: So because Bush did it it's alright? Will we ever raise our standards or just continue the race to the bottom?


No, every president does it. It's called Executive Privilege. It's nothing new. That's why I questioned singling Obama out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_privilege

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04 Nov 2011 19:27 #9 by Reverend Revelant

otisptoadwater wrote: Isn't that the standard Democrat MO? Tax and spend, tax and spend. What? The deficit is growing and the Gubment is taking in less money? Time to increase taxes so we can spend our way out of this mess and get re-elected!

I'll be interested to see where we are a year from now, IMHO Barry is going to need to pull a dozen or more miracles out of his posterior to even have a chance of getting re-elected between now and then. Four more years of tax and spend is not what the nation needs, let's elect someone who will deliver a smaller government, responsible spending, creating an environment that attracts business and creates jobs in the US!


Nope... that's the standard politicians modus operandi. Every politician in Washington DC, in state capitals, in city and country seats of governments have become beholden to feeding at the public trough. The Obama administration whips up some class warfare, the Occupy Wall Street movement complains about the artificially designated 1% class, Michael Moore tries to sub-divide the 1% into the New Styled Capitalism and the Old Styled Capitalism (of course, he made his 100 million working with in the Old Styled Capitalism system, which I gather in his mind is good. Old good, New bad).

These are all carefully crafted diversions from the real truth, to divert our gaze from the real problem... the political class. That's it, there's classes alright, but it's simply them against us. Political parties are partisan window dressing to keep us busy, busy chasing partisan phantoms while they whittle away our tax payers money. All of Washington, and the cadres of politicians prancing in and out of that city has become our version of Versailles. Top heavy with elite plutocrats and kleptocrats, men and woman who have never had to work a real job for a single day of their lives.

Like the "royalty" who roamed aimlessly in the halls of Versailles, actually sh*tting on the floor when the urge hit, most of our politicians use the halls of popular media to sh*t on us every Sunday morning, both right and left, boldface lying, bleating out of touch pronouncements and clueless platitudes. And who's fault is it? It's our fault. In the case of Versailles, those pouty M. et Mme escaped to Versailles to hide from the citizens. In our wonderful wisdom, we have propped them up in Washington and at times are actually proud of our little circus.

Importance and over-importance are two different things. Our politicians have totally lost sight of what is important and have let their own over-importance become job one. You want to know who is above the law... check with any politician who has a "D" a "R" or an "I" after their names.

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05 Nov 2011 10:42 #10 by Rick

Conservation Voice wrote:

chickaree wrote: So because Bush did it it's alright? Will we ever raise our standards or just continue the race to the bottom?


No, every president does it. It's called Executive Privilege. It's nothing new. That's why I questioned singling Obama out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_privilege

Remember the promise of transparency? He was just kidding I guess.

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