Obama’s New ‘Christmas Tree Tax’

09 Nov 2011 13:14 #21 by Reverend Revelant

LadyJazzer wrote: Sounds like a pro-business program to help the struggling tree farmers to me. And as has already been pointed out, the growers are free to pass on the .15-cent fee if they wish.

Next wacko outrage-of-the-day issue______?


Next wacko outrage-of-the-day issue is "You're Messiah Obama changed his mind"

Obama Administration to Delay New 15-Cent Christmas Tree Tax

The U.S. Department of Agriculture is going to delay implementation and revisit a proposed new 15 cent fee on fresh-cut Christmas trees, sources tell ABC News. The fee, requested by the National Christmas Tree Association in 2009, was first announced in the Federal Registry yesterday and has generated criticism of President Obama from conservative media outlets. The well-trafficked Drudge Report is leading with the story, linking to a blog by David Addington, a former top aide to then-Vice President David Addington, at the conservative Heritage Foundation assailing the president thus: “The economy is barely growing and nine percent of the American people have no jobs. Is a new tax on Christmas trees the best President Obama can do? And, by the way, the American Christmas tree has a great image that doesn’t need any help from the government.”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... -tree-fee/


Sounds like you're shooting your mouth off too soon. Now Messiah Obama has decided not to help the struggling tree farmers. And as has already been pointed out, it looks like the consumer, you know, the 99%, will not have to put up with the 15 cent tax being passed on to them. I don't know who I want to laugh at more... Messiah Obama for flip-flopping again or You. Ah... have fun Dr. Philban... laugh at them booth. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah

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09 Nov 2011 13:25 #22 by BearMtnHIB
Now if we could only get Obama to delay all the other taxes he advocates.

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09 Nov 2011 13:32 #23 by ScienceChic
What part of the government had nothing to do with this don't you get? The National Tree Growers Association voted to impose this fee on themselves! It's not a tax, it didn't come from the government, and it won't affect you (yet - I'm sure the growers will find a way to make this permanent and pass it along, but hey that's what free market capitalism is all about, right?). Sheesh people - read and think before you assume, judge, and type.

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09 Nov 2011 13:34 #24 by bailey bud

SS109 wrote: Does raise a interesting question, do the beef & pork council also have the feds collect taxes for them to pay for their commercials?


The USDA Agricultural Marketing Service (AMS) has a budget of $1.3 BILLION.

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09 Nov 2011 13:39 #25 by LadyJazzer

Science Chic wrote: What part of the government had nothing to do with this don't you get? The National Tree Growers Association voted to impose this fee on themselves! It's not a tax, it didn't come from the government, and it won't affect you (yet - I'm sure the growers will find a way to make this permanent and pass it along, but hey that's what free market capitalism is all about, right?). Sheesh people - read and think before you assume, judge, and type.



Don't keep confusing them with facts. Being outraged by a non-existent situation is so much more fun.

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09 Nov 2011 13:42 #26 by ScienceChic
Yes, it sure beats being outraged and extremely depressed at several existing situations. :angry:

"Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.” -King T'Challa, Black Panther

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09 Nov 2011 13:47 #27 by pineinthegrass

Science Chic wrote: What part of the government had nothing to do with this don't you get? The National Tree Growers Association voted to impose this fee on themselves! It's not a tax, it didn't come from the government, and it won't affect you (yet - I'm sure the growers will find a way to make this permanent and pass it along, but hey that's what free market capitalism is all about, right?). Sheesh people - read and think before you assume, judge, and type.


But, but it's all Obama's fault! If you don't believe me, just read the title of this thread! He's been planning this since 1996.

And this is just the first step. Give them 15 cents now and next thing you know Christmas will be taken away for good! rofllol

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09 Nov 2011 13:48 #28 by bailey bud
The tree grower association could not get all of their membership to pay enough for a marketing campaign.

So - they persuade the USDA to impose a tax - which generates considerably more than the association can generate on its own.
Then, they send a proposal to the USDA to offer tree advertisements.

This whole ordeal is a Washington Lobby full employment initiative.

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09 Nov 2011 13:49 #29 by Blazer Bob

Science Chic wrote: What part of the government had nothing to do with this don't you get? The National Tree Growers Association voted to impose this fee on themselves! It's not a tax, it didn't come from the government, and it won't affect you (yet - I'm sure the growers will find a way to make this permanent and pass it along, but hey that's what free market capitalism is all about, right?). Sheesh people - read and think before you assume, judge, and type.


One of us has a reading comprehension problem.


"The U.S. Department of Agriculture is going to delay implementation and revisit a proposed new 15 cent fee on fresh-cut Christmas trees, sources tell ABC News."

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09 Nov 2011 14:14 #30 by Reverend Revelant

neptunechimney wrote:

Science Chic wrote: What part of the government had nothing to do with this don't you get? The National Tree Growers Association voted to impose this fee on themselves! It's not a tax, it didn't come from the government, and it won't affect you (yet - I'm sure the growers will find a way to make this permanent and pass it along, but hey that's what free market capitalism is all about, right?). Sheesh people - read and think before you assume, judge, and type.


One of us has a reading comprehension problem.


"The U.S. Department of Agriculture is going to delay implementation and revisit a proposed new 15 cent fee on fresh-cut Christmas trees, sources tell ABC News."


Hey... just because they are liberals and have juicy names like Lady Jazzer and Science Chic doesn't mean they have any comprehension skills. What part of "The U.S. Department of Agriculture" is so hard to understand? For purposes of this thread... they are not part of the government... sure.

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