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Science Chic wrote: And the initiative came from the tree growers - not the White House. .
Science Chic wrote: It's not a tax, it didn't come from the government. .
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I'm not sure I see the problem - both statements say the same thing - this fee was not initiated by the government, but by the owners in the industry, and it's not being passed on to the consumers so it's not a tax. How is this kowtowing to a special interest group? They asked for a fee to be established that they themselves will pay, to create a self-governed group to study how to make their business more profitable? If anything, this smacks of over-regulation (having to submit a request like this to be approved by the government instead of just being able to form a coalition to do it), not kowtowing to special interests. If it was doing that, then it would be affecting the consumer somehow, either we'd have to pay a tax, or we'd have rules placed on access to product and neither is the case.neptunechimney wrote:
Science Chic wrote: And the initiative came from the tree growers - not the White House. .
How does that square with this?
Science Chic wrote: It's not a tax, it didn't come from the government. .
Do you now favor government kowtowing to special interest groups?
Joe wrote: I usually just go out in my front yard and cut down a little tree. Do I need to send a check for 15 cents to the Dept. of Agriculture first? I don't want any trouble.
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Rockdoc, I don't think the government collects the money, I believe the growers do (I could be wrong about that - I didn't see it spelled out in the formal explanation that I linked to earlier). I'm guessing that the government has to approve this kind of implementation because selling live products falls under the review of gov't agencies, and it would be an excellent mechanism for large producers/importers to squeeze out smaller competition using this group creation (although how much competition little companies really are against bigger ones I can't see as a true driving force, but I also didn't research the background on the law that required the growers to place this request with the USDA for approval.Rockdoc Franz wrote: If there is a need for advertising why does the government need to get involved at all???????? What is the need for the tree growers to have the government collect the money???? Just like any business they could charge fifteen cents more and set it aside for advertising purposes. Duh. Too much to ask??? If it is only for the Big time growers why bother? Let them to be self sufficient or responsible for their needs?? Never. Come government hold my hand, I'll even give you another idea of how to do it. What exactly does it accomplish to have the government involved??? Oh wait. It creates more bureaucracy, more jobs, that the fifteen cents will never cover, but tax payers will have an opportunity to do so, and one more reason why the government needs more money. Simply STUPID and SICK. ANd, like all government activity, this will not go away by itself. What has this nation become when so many people keep thinking it is ok for government to act on all things private business?
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Science Chic wrote: [I'm guessing that the government has to approve this kind of implementation because selling live products falls under the review of gov't agencies, and it would be an excellent mechanism for large producers/importers to squeeze out smaller competition using this group creation (although how much competition little companies really are against bigger ones I can't see as a true driving force, but I also didn't research the background on the law that required the growers to place this request with the USDA for approval.
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