Republicans are obviously leaving the Tea Party already

They are saying that the Republican party is really going away from the Tea Party. The two people leading are the biggest establishment and most moderate candidates. Romney and Newt. And the most conservative candidates who are pushing the most conservative issues and policies that are Tea Party based issues can't get traction. Perrry, Santorum and Bachman. Guess the conservatives have a short memory and are leaving the Tea Party already.

And Cain is just pseudo conservative at best and by far the least experienced and most prone to screw ups and weakest against Obama. So he is just kind of lingering like a fart in an elevator.

Maybe if Perry were more moderate he would get more votes again. Seems that is what the majority of Republicans want now. I thought we tried that in 2008? Didn't work then, why are people wanting to try it again?

The Viking wrote: They are saying that the Republican party is really going away from the Tea Party. The two people leading are the biggest establishment and most moderate candidates. Romney and Newt. And the most conservative candidates who are pushing the most conservative issues and policies that are Tea Party based issues can't get traction. Perrry, Santorum and Bachman. Guess the conservatives have a short memory and are leaving the Tea Party already.

And Cain is just pseudo conservative at best and by far the least experienced and most prone to screw ups and weakest against Obama. So he is just kind of lingering like a fart in an elevator.

OH YEA. rofllol Can you say "BAD DOG".

You really think Republican voters want to go back to the compassionate conservative years of "W"? (Spend, spend, spend!)

If the TEA Party candidates stayed on message and pushed fiscal conservatism only, I think they would be doing better. Santorum, Bachman, and Perry all are culture warriors. Cain, polling better, is more of a neutral on the typical moral issues.

I agree. It's not the message that's at fault, it's the messangers. The crazies get all the press while solid candidates are left in the dust because they're boring.

neptunechimney wrote:

The Viking wrote: They are saying that the Republican party is really going away from the Tea Party. The two people leading are the biggest establishment and most moderate candidates. Romney and Newt. And the most conservative candidates who are pushing the most conservative issues and policies that are Tea Party based issues can't get traction. Perrry, Santorum and Bachman. Guess the conservatives have a short memory and are leaving the Tea Party already.

And Cain is just pseudo conservative at best and by far the least experienced and most prone to screw ups and weakest against Obama. So he is just kind of lingering like a fart in an elevator.

OH YEA. rofllol Can you say "BAD DOG".

No idea what that means.

chickaree wrote: I agree. It's not the message that's at fault, it's the messangers. The crazies get all the press while solid candidates are left in the dust because they're boring.

Exactly. They said it again tonight and have said it many times. Perry has some great plans and the most Conservative plans but it was how he presented it that killed him. They said, had Newt had Perry's ideas, Newt would be way up in the polls. So I guess it comes down to if you want the best messge and the best plans or the best messenger.

Candidates peaked when they showed their economic/tax plans. They fell back to Earth when they got off target.

Newt actually grew on me a little more last night. He is still my second choice. He is following Perry's lead on a lot. First it was the flat tax plan, now he backed Perry on defending his stance on what you can actually do with illegal kids who are already here.

The utterly improbable Obama-Tea Party alliance

But here’s another possibility: What if Tea Party Republicans balk at the idea of undoing any spending cuts? Remember that the Tea Party movement has actually been fighting a two-front war — one is against Obama, but the other is against a Republican “establishment” that supposedly spent the Bush years selling out conservative principles and enabling Obama’s rise.

A fight over the Defense cuts trigger would force Tea Party conservatives to choose between these two fronts. If they are mainly driven by a desire for confrontation with Obama, then they’d presumably go along with the Defense hawks and call for the trigger to be disabled — even if it means adding to the deficit. But if their desire for intraparty purity wins out, then they might just turn on the hawks and accuse them of serving Bush-style big government conservatism. This would put pressure on other Republican members of Congress, who live in fear of receiving the RINO label and the Tea Party-backed primary challenge that would come with it, to resist the hawks too, making it possible that the Tea Party could actually empower Obama to stand his ground.

http://www.salon.com/2011/11/22/the_utt ... _alliance/