Drug Test for Unemployment Benies.

If you had to hire on the spot, no excuses and two twins came in, one reeking of pot and the other of whisky....who would you hire to start work in 10 minutes? Again no excuses, just like an election, pick the lesser of evils.

This thread contains some very good reasoning and logic presented by Printsmith. The liberals have reduced this thread to babbling nonsense.

http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/state-r ... 02153.html

Yes, let's never let an opportunity to make people who have lost their jobs feel more embarrassment and demeaned by applying for the Unemployment INSURANCE BENEFITS that were set aside for them. That's the "Compassionate Conservative" way, isn't it....

You are assuming that all the jobless are victims.
If it is demeaning to be tested for drugs as a jobless person than what is the same thing for people that have a job?
What a sob story.
Poor jobless.
So, if conservatives do anything logically they are uncaring?
It sucks to not have a job but saying we can't be mean to them is your argument?
I happen to think that it is a waste of resources to drug test but I had to say something about your argument it is flawed.
Say something logical please!

And you are assuming that all the jobless are drug-using deadbeats...

I'll stand by what I said.

LadyJazzer wrote: And you are assuming that all the jobless are drug-using deadbeats...

I'll stand by what I said.

Nope... no more than a company that drug tests all new hires are assuming that all their new hires are drug-using deadbeats. That's YOU'RE assumption. Do you read minds? So... if you had to take a drug test for employment, you would assume that your new employer believes you are a drug-using deadbeat?

LadyJazzer wrote: That was on August 19... By August 28, they had more numbers:

Only 2% of Florida Welfare Recipients Fail Drug Test – 98% Keep Benefit Payments

Scott had argued that the savings of withholding benefits for drug users would more than pay for the cost of the drug testing program, but since only 2% of the applicants tested so far have tested positive for drugs (far less than the national average drug use rate) the expected savings aren’t likely to materialize.

http://www.choosehelp.com/news/policy-a ... t-payments

Yes, let's never let an opportunity to make people who have lost their jobs feel more embarrassment and demeaned by applying for the Unemployment INSURANCE BENEFITS that were set aside for them. That's the "Compassionate Conservative" way, isn't it....

Notice the nice shift from recipients in the headline to applicants in the body copy that I've highlighted above. It's almost as if they are intending to deceive in employing such tactics, isn't it. Almost as if they're trying to convince you that 98% of everyone receiving benefits has tested clean when that clearly is not the case at all. While perhaps true that 98% of new applicants are testing clean immediately in the wake of the passage of the law and the widespread reporting that accompanied it, there is absolutely no credible data, credible being the operative word here, which suggests that 98% of all of the people currently receiving the charity are drug free as the attention grabbing headline states to be the case.

No one is suggesting that all of those receiving welfare charity are drug using deadbeats, nor is anyone suggesting that all of the jobless seeking unemployment benefits are drug using deadbeats. What is being suggested is that there are enough drug using deadbeats in both of these groups that the programs intended to be safety nets could be stretched further, or would not have their already stressed resources stressed as much, if the drug using deadbeats in these groups were disqualified from participation in the programs intended to temporarily support those who found themselves in need through no fault of their own. When you are dependent upon the charity of others for your day to day existence, one of the things you can do without for that period of time is your self indulgent use of illicit and illegal substances. If you are unwilling to deny yourself the self indulgent behavior, then you should not expect that the compelled contributions of others will be given to you so that your self indulgent behavior can continue.

Since you have provided no credible data to suggest otherwise, you can take your "compassionate conservative" lecture about this presumed-but-mythical segment of the population and shove it.

I stand by what I said.

Unemployment benefits are not welfare...no matter how much you would like to suggest otherwise. Yes, if the paid-in Unemployment INSURANCE payments end up not covering the amount that needs to be paid out, then it gets supplimented by federal dollars. Only if you have the moronic outlook that every dollar paid out from the feds is "welfare" would you keep harping on that...

Oh, wait... The Sovereign Citizen loonies DO think that... My bad...

Do you also stand by the transparent attempts to deceive that are contained in the references you supplied?

What part of "I stand by what I said" are you having problems with?