Payroll Tax Cut: 'Wall Street Journal' Editorial Rips GOP

22 Dec 2011 11:02 #21 by LadyJazzer
The number of "jobs" that the oil companies tried to float has already been shown to be a complete fabrication... Spare us the "hundreds of thousands of jobs" routine. Plus, the oil companies have already proven, over and over again, that they can't do ANYTHING without screwing up the environment... (Deep-Water Horizon ring a bell? How about "Exxon Valdez"?)

I distinctly remember that when the Dems tried to tell the GOP a couple of years ago that if they wanted to keep their Bush tax-cuts after the expiration date, that they would have to be "paid for"... And I also distinctly remember--it was John Kyl, I believe--who said, "Don't be silly... Tax cuts pay for themselves, and therefore don't have to be paid for in the budget." So, we can fight TWO $Trillion unpaid-for wars, and the Bush Tax Cuts "pay for themselves", but somehow this help for the middle class has to be "paid for"? (And during the period of the Bush tax-cuts only 3.1 million jobs were created...And in the 8 years PRIOR to the Bush tax-cuts, Clinton created 23.1 million jobs...)

Help me out with the hypocrisy here...

...And GOP, PLEASE jus' keep doin' what yer doin'... Keep it up with your little temper tantrums.

McDonalds isn't the only one saying, "I'm lovin' it"....

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22 Dec 2011 14:33 #22 by RenegadeCJ
A 2 month extension is absurd from a business perspective. I can't imagine trying to figure out the details of this, and know how badly it would be manipulated. Either extend for a year, or let the holiday expire.

Regarding the pipeline, what should have been done is approve it's construction, THEN figure out the details. In the meantime, all the "details, environmental concerns, etc" could be worked out. To push it off till 2013 is a purely political move. We need jobs, not politics.

Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!

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22 Dec 2011 14:39 #23 by Reverend Revelant

RenegadeCJ wrote: A 2 month extension is absurd from a business perspective. I can't imagine trying to figure out the details of this, and know how badly it would be manipulated. Either extend for a year, or let the holiday expire.

Regarding the pipeline, what should have been done is approve it's construction, THEN figure out the details. In the meantime, all the "details, environmental concerns, etc" could be worked out. To push it off till 2013 is a purely political move. We need jobs, not politics.


Well... you'll have a chance to find out. Our GOP pussies cave again.

Breaking: House GOP agrees to Senate’s two-month payroll-tax bill; Update: Does Boehner have the votes?

House Republicans on Thursday crumpled under the weight of White House and public pressure and have agreed to pass a two-month extension of the 2 percent payroll-tax cut, Republican and Democratic sources told National Journal…

The House will pass the two-month extension with a technical correction to the language designed to minimize difficulties businesses might experience implementing the short-term, two-month tax cut extension.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/12/22/b ... extension/


Here we go... it's going to be 4 more years of Obama. Which is fine with me. Give the left 4 more years to continue to screw this country, and the poop will finally hit the fan. Clean sweep. We left Europe... no way this country is going to give it back to the socialists.

Waiting for Armageddon since 33 AD

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22 Dec 2011 14:47 #24 by archer

RenegadeCJ wrote: A 2 month extension is absurd from a business perspective. I can't imagine trying to figure out the details of this, and know how badly it would be manipulated. Either extend for a year, or let the holiday expire.

Regarding the pipeline, what should have been done is approve it's construction, THEN figure out the details. In the meantime, all the "details, environmental concerns, etc" could be worked out. To push it off till 2013 is a purely political move. We need jobs, not politics.


I agree....why couldn't they just extend the payroll tax cuts for a year (plus the doctor payments for medicare and the unemployment) WITHOUT muddying the waters with the pipeline and the EPA stuff, that had no business in there in the first place.

This could all have been avoided if the house had passed a clean bill in the first place, then the GOP could have run on how they cut taxes for the middle class and worked in a bipartisan way with the democrats and Obama. One huge missed opportunity. Now they just look like losers.

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22 Dec 2011 15:55 #25 by LadyJazzer

RenegadeCJ wrote: A 2 month extension is absurd from a business perspective. I can't imagine trying to figure out the details of this, and know how badly it would be manipulated. Either extend for a year, or let the holiday expire.


Yeah, what were those Republicans thinking? When they could have easily passed a one-year clean bill...

Losers....

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22 Dec 2011 18:27 #26 by jf1acai
Kind of hard to tell, from the biased and incomplete information that I have found, but it appears that there might actually be some compromising involved here.

If so, good for them, it is long past due!

Experience enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again - Jeanne Pincha-Tulley

Comprehensive is Latin for there is lots of bad stuff in it - Trey Gowdy

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22 Dec 2011 18:46 #27 by LadyJazzer
Apparently after being told by Karl Rove, and even Mitch McConnell, that they were screwing-up...big-time...they got the message.

Sometimes if you can get a big enough 2x4 you can get their attention....

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22 Dec 2011 18:54 #28 by jf1acai
A compromise requires mutual concessions, so all parties involved needed the application of a sufficiently large 2x4.

I just hope it was large enough, and applied vigorously enough, to actually get the attention of all involved.

Only time will tell.

Experience enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again - Jeanne Pincha-Tulley

Comprehensive is Latin for there is lots of bad stuff in it - Trey Gowdy

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22 Dec 2011 19:19 #29 by LadyJazzer
If they wait 60 days and just go back to putting poison pill amendments in it again, they're going to put the final nail in the coffin with the voters.

They've now proven they have no substance...only their stupid ideology...

Jus' keep doin' what yer doin'.... :biggrin:

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22 Dec 2011 20:48 #30 by LadyJazzer

"It may not have been politically the smartest thing in the world." -- John Boehner



It's nice to know that even after screwing up, and having his head handed to him, his first concern is STILL the fact that it was not "politically the smartest thing in the world." Politics before people. They just don't get it....

Not only have they probably handed the election to Obama, but with all of the other wingnuts showing they're more interested in throwing bombs than doing what's best for the country, I think the House is going to lose a bunch of seats, and the Senate may pick up 3-4 seats...

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