Obama to Congress: I’ll decide what’s constitutional

05 Jan 2012 15:54 #1 by Martin Ent Inc
Just a few days before Christmas, Obama served notice to all Americans that he will continue to abuse executive privilege by seeking new ways to vilify gun owners and further his anti-gun agenda.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/05/obama ... itutional/

Ya'll have fun now ya hear,,, oh and play nice.

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05 Jan 2012 16:15 #2 by Reverend Revelant

Martin Ent Inc wrote: Just a few days before Christmas, Obama served notice to all Americans that he will continue to abuse executive privilege by seeking new ways to vilify gun owners and further his anti-gun agenda.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/05/obama ... itutional/

Ya'll have fun now ya hear,,, oh and play nice.


Obama’s pronouncement is as close to an actual declaration of a dictatorship as one can get without actually saying those words.

He can kill anyone at will
He can detain anyone indefinitely without charges
He picks and chooses which laws he supports (today)
He makes up laws as he goes along
His administration is the biggest grouping of academic idiots in the world.
He no longer needs Congress, since they get in his way
He can rule the country by Executive Orders

Our founder ancestors would be shooting by now.

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05 Jan 2012 16:26 #3 by ZHawke

Martin Ent Inc wrote: Just a few days before Christmas, Obama served notice to all Americans that he will continue to abuse executive privilege by seeking new ways to vilify gun owners and further his anti-gun agenda.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/05/obama ... itutional/

Ya'll have fun now ya hear,,, oh and play nice.


Please see U.S. Constitution - Article 2 Section 3. It is, in fact, the constitutional requirement of the executive branch of our government:

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient


The link you provided clearly, IMO, and perhaps intentionally misinterprets the President's quote. I'm a gun owner, I generally support the American Citizen's right to bear arms, but I do not support articles like this that re-word quotes to make them sound as if there is a misuse of power, be it by a progressive or conservative.

The President's quote:

I have advised Congress that I will not construe these provisions as preventing me from fulfilling my constitutional responsibility to recommend to the Congress’s consideration such measures as I shall judge necessary and expedient.


The article's "re-wording" of the President's quote:

In other words: “Congress may pass laws, but I decide which of its laws are constitutional and which I can simply choose to ignore.”

Putting their own words into the mouth of the President is what I'm referring to as being misleading.

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05 Jan 2012 16:34 #4 by LadyJazzer
They'll intentionally misquote him every chance they get...

In the meantime, Ronald Reagan, Bush-41 and Bush-43 ALL made recess appointments to the NLRB, and Dept of Labor. They're just upset because the President used the same tactic to circumvent their childish tantrums....

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05 Jan 2012 16:37 #5 by Reverend Revelant

LadyJazzer wrote: They'll intentionally misquote him every chance they get...

In the meantime, Ronald Reagan, Bush-41 and Bush-43 ALL made recess appointments to the NLRB, and Dept of Labor. They're just upset because the President used the same tactic to circumvent their childish tantrums....


And here's what you hypocritical leftists said about those appointment THEN....

THEN-SEN. BARACK OBAMA (D-IL): Recess appointments ‘the wrong thing to do.’ “‘It’s the wrong thing to do. John Bolton is the wrong person for the job,’ said Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., a member of Foreign Relations Committee.” (“Officials: White House To Bypass Congress For Bolton Nomination,” The Associated Press, 7/30/05)

· OBAMA: A recess appointee is ‘damaged goods… we will have less credibility.’ “To some degree, he’s damaged goods… somebody who couldn’t get through a nomination in the Senate. And I think that that means that we will have less credibility…” (“Bush Sends Bolton To U.N.” The State Journal-Register [Springfield, IL], 8/2/05)

SEN. HARRY REID (D-NV): ‘An end run around the Senate and the Constitution.’ “I will keep the Senate in pro forma session to block the President from doing an end run around the Senate and the Constitution with his controversial nominations.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.15980, 12/19/07)

· REID: ‘They are mischievous.’ “Also, understand this: We have had a difficult problem with the President now for some time. We don’t let him have recess appointments because they are mischievous, and unless we have an agreement before the recess, there will be no recess. We will meet every third day pro forma, as we have done during the last series of breaks.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.7558, 7/28/08)

· REID: Recess appointments an ‘abuse of power.’ “Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) denounced the appointment as ‘the latest abuse of power by the Bush administration,’ adding that Bolton would arrive at the UN ‘with a cloud hanging over his head’ because he could not win confirmation.” (“Bush Puts Bolton In UN Post,” Chicago Tribune, 8/2/05)

· REID: A recess appointee will have ‘a cloud hanging over his head.’ “Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) denounced the appointment as ‘the latest abuse of power by the Bush administration,’ adding that Bolton would arrive at the UN ‘with a cloud hanging over his head’ because he could not win confirmation.” (“Bush Puts Bolton In UN Post,” Chicago Tribune, 8/2/05)

SEN. DICK DURBIN (D-IL): ‘Troubling.’ “When you have an appointment that is this critical and this sensitive, and the president basically says he’s going to ignore the will of the senate and push someone through, it really is troubling.” (“Bush Sends Bolton To U.N.” The State Journal-Register [Springfield, IL], 8/2/05)

· DURBIN: ‘Could easily be unconstitutional.’ “I agree with Senator Kennedy that Mr. Pryor’s recess appointment, which occurred during a brief recess of Congress, could easily be unconstitutional. It was certainly confrontational. Recess appointments lack the permanence and independence contemplated by the Framers of the Constitution.” (Sen. Durbin, Congressional Record, S.6253, 6/9/05)

SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA): Recess appointments an ‘abuse [of] the power of the presidency.’ “‘It’s sad but not surprising that this White House would abuse the power of the presidency to reward a donor over the objections of the Senate,’ Kerry said in a statement …” (“Recess Appointments Granted to ‘Swift Boat’ Donor, 2 Other Nominees,” The Washington Post, 4/5/07)

SEN. FRANK LAUTENBERG (D-NJ): “…bends the rules and circumvents the will of Congress.” (“President Sends Bolton to U.N.; Bypasses Senate,” The New York Times, 8/2/05)

SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-MT): “Senate confirmation of presidential appointees is an essential process prescribed by the Constitution that serves as a check on executive power and protects Montanans and all Americans by ensuring that crucial questions are asked of the nominee — and answered…” (“Dem Baucus Joins GOP In Blasting Obama CMS Recess Appointment,” The Hill, 7/7/10)

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 ... is-now.php


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05 Jan 2012 17:21 #6 by ZHawke
The OP was about gun control issues, and the misleading nature of the article in which responsibilities of the President of the United States were discussed. Making a quote erroneously look like it is from an individual who did not make it is what I was concerned with. While the issue of "recess appointments" is valid, IMO, it would probably be better served in a new thread of its own, don't you think? Maybe it would be most appropriate if the OP author were to decide, eh?

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05 Jan 2012 17:27 #7 by Reverend Revelant

zhawke wrote: The OP was about gun control issues, and the misleading nature of the article in which responsibilities of the President of the United States were discussed. Making a quote erroneously look like it is from an individual who did not make it is what I was concerned with. While the issue of "recess appointments" is valid, IMO, it would probably be better served in a new thread of its own, don't you think? Maybe it would be most appropriate if the OP author were to decide, eh?


"Maybe it would be most appropriate if the OP author were to decide" ... okay... then why don't you shut up?

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05 Jan 2012 17:33 #8 by ZHawke

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

zhawke wrote: The OP was about gun control issues, and the misleading nature of the article in which responsibilities of the President of the United States were discussed. Making a quote erroneously look like it is from an individual who did not make it is what I was concerned with. While the issue of "recess appointments" is valid, IMO, it would probably be better served in a new thread of its own, don't you think? Maybe it would be most appropriate if the OP author were to decide, eh?


"Maybe it would be most appropriate if the OP author were to decide" ... okay... then why don't you shut up?


Your infantile side is showing through loud and clear.

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05 Jan 2012 17:48 #9 by Reverend Revelant

zhawke wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

zhawke wrote: The OP was about gun control issues, and the misleading nature of the article in which responsibilities of the President of the United States were discussed. Making a quote erroneously look like it is from an individual who did not make it is what I was concerned with. While the issue of "recess appointments" is valid, IMO, it would probably be better served in a new thread of its own, don't you think? Maybe it would be most appropriate if the OP author were to decide, eh?


"Maybe it would be most appropriate if the OP author were to decide" ... okay... then why don't you shut up?


Your infantile side is showing through loud and clear.


Yawn.

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05 Jan 2012 17:57 #10 by ZHawke

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

zhawke wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

zhawke wrote: The OP was about gun control issues, and the misleading nature of the article in which responsibilities of the President of the United States were discussed. Making a quote erroneously look like it is from an individual who did not make it is what I was concerned with. While the issue of "recess appointments" is valid, IMO, it would probably be better served in a new thread of its own, don't you think? Maybe it would be most appropriate if the OP author were to decide, eh?


"Maybe it would be most appropriate if the OP author were to decide" ... okay... then why don't you shut up?


Your infantile side is showing through loud and clear.


Yawn.


Go to sleep. You're certainly not contributing anything worthwhile here.

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