Obama to Congress: I’ll decide what’s constitutional

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

zhawke wrote:

Martin Ent Inc wrote: Obama does not respect the constitution or the American people.

Really? Statement of fact or merely your opinion? If you truly believe it is a statement of fact, back it up WITH fact.

Well... as I posted before... let's see what the house and senate said about George Bush pulling the same stunt...

THEN-SEN. BARACK OBAMA (D-IL): Recess appointments ‘the wrong thing to do.’ “‘It’s the wrong thing to do. John Bolton is the wrong person for the job,’ said Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., a member of Foreign Relations Committee.” (“Officials: White House To Bypass Congress For Bolton Nomination,” The Associated Press, 7/30/05)

· OBAMA: A recess appointee is ‘damaged goods… we will have less credibility.’ “To some degree, he’s damaged goods… somebody who couldn’t get through a nomination in the Senate. And I think that that means that we will have less credibility…” (“Bush Sends Bolton To U.N.” The State Journal-Register [Springfield, IL], 8/2/05)

SEN. HARRY REID (D-NV): ‘An end run around the Senate and the Constitution.’ “I will keep the Senate in pro forma session to block the President from doing an end run around the Senate and the Constitution with his controversial nominations.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.15980, 12/19/07)

· REID: ‘They are mischievous.’ “Also, understand this: We have had a difficult problem with the President now for some time. We don’t let him have recess appointments because they are mischievous, and unless we have an agreement before the recess, there will be no recess. We will meet every third day pro forma, as we have done during the last series of breaks.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.7558, 7/28/08)

· REID: Recess appointments an ‘abuse of power.’ “Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) denounced the appointment as ‘the latest abuse of power by the Bush administration,’ adding that Bolton would arrive at the UN ‘with a cloud hanging over his head’ because he could not win confirmation.” (“Bush Puts Bolton In UN Post,” Chicago Tribune, 8/2/05)

· REID: A recess appointee will have ‘a cloud hanging over his head.’ “Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) denounced the appointment as ‘the latest abuse of power by the Bush administration,’ adding that Bolton would arrive at the UN ‘with a cloud hanging over his head’ because he could not win confirmation.” (“Bush Puts Bolton In UN Post,” Chicago Tribune, 8/2/05)

SEN. DICK DURBIN (D-IL): ‘Troubling.’ “When you have an appointment that is this critical and this sensitive, and the president basically says he’s going to ignore the will of the senate and push someone through, it really is troubling.” (“Bush Sends Bolton To U.N.” The State Journal-Register [Springfield, IL], 8/2/05)

· DURBIN: ‘Could easily be unconstitutional.’ “I agree with Senator Kennedy that Mr. Pryor’s recess appointment, which occurred during a brief recess of Congress, could easily be unconstitutional. It was certainly confrontational. Recess appointments lack the permanence and independence contemplated by the Framers of the Constitution.” (Sen. Durbin, Congressional Record, S.6253, 6/9/05)

SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA): Recess appointments an ‘abuse [of] the power of the presidency.’ “‘It’s sad but not surprising that this White House would abuse the power of the presidency to reward a donor over the objections of the Senate,’ Kerry said in a statement …” (“Recess Appointments Granted to ‘Swift Boat’ Donor, 2 Other Nominees,” The Washington Post, 4/5/07)

SEN. FRANK LAUTENBERG (D-NJ): “…bends the rules and circumvents the will of Congress.” (“President Sends Bolton to U.N.; Bypasses Senate,” The New York Times, 8/2/05)

SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-MT): “Senate confirmation of presidential appointees is an essential process prescribed by the Constitution that serves as a check on executive power and protects Montanans and all Americans by ensuring that crucial questions are asked of the nominee — and answered…” (“Dem Baucus Joins GOP In Blasting Obama CMS Recess Appointment,” The Hill, 7/7/10)

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 ... is-now.php

There's some facts for ya. Straight from the horses mouth. Members of the House and Senate. So... I guess you disagree with all these professional Democratic politicians?

Them's ain't facts, no more than what's his name's statement about Obama not respecting the Constitution. Just because you say they come "Straight from the horses mouth", don't mean squat. If you can't prove these statements to be fact (which you can't), then accept them as opinion (which they are). And, you accuse others of using the infamous "Tu Quoque fallacy" to "support" your crap. Well, look in the mirror dipstick.

Quick, define Socialism. You're still bandying this term about with what you obviously perceive to be impunity in as derogatory a manner as you seem to be able to muster, but you still haven't defined it.

While it may be a fact that statements were made, it does not make the statements fact.

Here is a fact. In Park County we approved a $30,000,000 school renovation ($15,000,000 state funds $15,000,000 local) which will be borrowed by both parties and have another $30,000,000 in interest totalling $60,000,000 in additional taxes paid by coloradians to build our school....where the adults in the community don't even know fact from opinion.

Perhaps the money, if not left in the pockets who earned it, might serve the community better by being invested in adult basic ed. I know I could use some speelling touch up.

For those to LAZY to do some research this:
http://seguingazette.com/opinion/commun ... 3ce6c.html

Reading someones opinion is research for facts?

Martin Ent Inc wrote: For those to LAZY to do some research this:
http://seguingazette.com/opinion/commun ... 3ce6c.html

First, this link: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~nyhan/health-care-misinformation.pdf
Next, this link: http://mediamatters.org/research/201101270037
And, finally, this link: http://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-auto-bailout-and-the-rule-of-law which, to me, is far more relevant to "your" cause than the link you posted (and troubling, for that matter, especially if you're concerned about the "rule of law" and how politicians, in general, use and abuse their positions of authority - Executive, Legislative, and Judicial, regardless of "political party affiliation" they profess and including Obama - to further their own political agendas).