Obama to Congress: I’ll decide what’s constitutional

Oh Brother.

Obama does not respect the constitution or the American people.
And I love those that state I am a gun owner and Generally suport gun ownership. You either do or don't, and you either stand up for it or don't. There is no I am a gun owner ,,,BUT.
When the SHTF then those that have the BUT at the end their sentence will cave and go to that chain link encloser hoping they will one day get out.

zhawke wrote:
"Maybe it would be most appropriate if the OP author were to decide" ... okay... then why don't you shut up?

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It appears the OP didn't have any problem with my little side story on Obama and his unconstitutional meanderings. Weak sauce on your part jerk-ass.

No problem

Add this little pc:
http://cnsnews.com/blog/patrick-burke/m ... nal-crisis

So, another untrue, misleading topic title...

Martin Ent Inc wrote: No problem

That's all I was asking for, nothing more.

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote: It appears the OP didn't have any problem with my little side story on Obama and his unconstitutional meanderings. Weak sauce on your part jerk-ass.

Gee, Doc - thanks for the compliment. Your debating technique and your vocabulary improve with every post you make. :indifferent: It's a wonder I've been able to make it thus far through life without your kindness and support. :gleeful:

Martin Ent Inc wrote: Obama does not respect the constitution or the American people.

Really? Statement of fact or merely your opinion? If you truly believe it is a statement of fact, back it up WITH fact.

Martin Ent Inc wrote: And I love those that state I am a gun owner and Generally suport gun ownership. You either do or don't, and you either stand up for it or don't. There is no I am a gun owner ,,,BUT.

Why must it be an "either - or" proposition? That's your position - not mine. You don't speak for me on this issue. The comment(s) I made were directed at the misleading and disengenuous content of the article you posted a link to. For you to call my position on gun ownership into question is irrelevant to the OP topic.

Martin Ent Inc wrote: When the SHTF then those that have the BUT at the end their sentence will cave and go to that chain link encloser hoping they will one day get out.

Really? How do you know? Has it happened to someone you know? It certainly hasn't happened to me. Nor has it happened to anyone I know. Cite precedent. The proof is in the pudding, so to speak.

zhawke wrote:

Martin Ent Inc wrote: Obama does not respect the constitution or the American people.

Really? Statement of fact or merely your opinion? If you truly believe it is a statement of fact, back it up WITH fact.

Well... as I posted before... let's see what the house and senate said about George Bush pulling the same stunt...

THEN-SEN. BARACK OBAMA (D-IL): Recess appointments ‘the wrong thing to do.’ “‘It’s the wrong thing to do. John Bolton is the wrong person for the job,’ said Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., a member of Foreign Relations Committee.” (“Officials: White House To Bypass Congress For Bolton Nomination,” The Associated Press, 7/30/05)

· OBAMA: A recess appointee is ‘damaged goods… we will have less credibility.’ “To some degree, he’s damaged goods… somebody who couldn’t get through a nomination in the Senate. And I think that that means that we will have less credibility…” (“Bush Sends Bolton To U.N.” The State Journal-Register [Springfield, IL], 8/2/05)

SEN. HARRY REID (D-NV): ‘An end run around the Senate and the Constitution.’ “I will keep the Senate in pro forma session to block the President from doing an end run around the Senate and the Constitution with his controversial nominations.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.15980, 12/19/07)

· REID: ‘They are mischievous.’ “Also, understand this: We have had a difficult problem with the President now for some time. We don’t let him have recess appointments because they are mischievous, and unless we have an agreement before the recess, there will be no recess. We will meet every third day pro forma, as we have done during the last series of breaks.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.7558, 7/28/08)

· REID: Recess appointments an ‘abuse of power.’ “Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) denounced the appointment as ‘the latest abuse of power by the Bush administration,’ adding that Bolton would arrive at the UN ‘with a cloud hanging over his head’ because he could not win confirmation.” (“Bush Puts Bolton In UN Post,” Chicago Tribune, 8/2/05)

· REID: A recess appointee will have ‘a cloud hanging over his head.’ “Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) denounced the appointment as ‘the latest abuse of power by the Bush administration,’ adding that Bolton would arrive at the UN ‘with a cloud hanging over his head’ because he could not win confirmation.” (“Bush Puts Bolton In UN Post,” Chicago Tribune, 8/2/05)

SEN. DICK DURBIN (D-IL): ‘Troubling.’ “When you have an appointment that is this critical and this sensitive, and the president basically says he’s going to ignore the will of the senate and push someone through, it really is troubling.” (“Bush Sends Bolton To U.N.” The State Journal-Register [Springfield, IL], 8/2/05)

· DURBIN: ‘Could easily be unconstitutional.’ “I agree with Senator Kennedy that Mr. Pryor’s recess appointment, which occurred during a brief recess of Congress, could easily be unconstitutional. It was certainly confrontational. Recess appointments lack the permanence and independence contemplated by the Framers of the Constitution.” (Sen. Durbin, Congressional Record, S.6253, 6/9/05)

SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA): Recess appointments an ‘abuse [of] the power of the presidency.’ “‘It’s sad but not surprising that this White House would abuse the power of the presidency to reward a donor over the objections of the Senate,’ Kerry said in a statement …” (“Recess Appointments Granted to ‘Swift Boat’ Donor, 2 Other Nominees,” The Washington Post, 4/5/07)

SEN. FRANK LAUTENBERG (D-NJ): “…bends the rules and circumvents the will of Congress.” (“President Sends Bolton to U.N.; Bypasses Senate,” The New York Times, 8/2/05)

SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-MT): “Senate confirmation of presidential appointees is an essential process prescribed by the Constitution that serves as a check on executive power and protects Montanans and all Americans by ensuring that crucial questions are asked of the nominee — and answered…” (“Dem Baucus Joins GOP In Blasting Obama CMS Recess Appointment,” The Hill, 7/7/10)

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 ... is-now.php

There's some facts for ya. Straight from the horses mouth. Members of the House and Senate. So... I guess you disagree with all these professional Democratic politicians?

Checkmate

LLIB wrote: Checkmate

It's not checkmate. Zhawke has his head so far up his lefty ass he can't see the forest for his own avatar. He'll just work up another deflection and stumble on.