Should 285Bound.com join the Internet Blackout on 1/18/12?

18 Jan 2012 09:11 #21 by BearMtnHIB
I am against any further censorship or regulation of the internet. The government already has the regulations in place to shut down websites. They already have hundreds of laws and regulations that address copyright infringment. There are already well established laws, regulations and settled court cases revolving around these issues.

These 2 proposed bills give the government censorship authority well beyond what is needed to address these issues- and the support for them comes from big corporations- this is yet another example of laws that are generated by a few corporations for their own benefit.

It looks like the bills have enough support to pass. Unless everyone complains about them- they probably will become law. The government will have a free hand to shut down any internet activity it deems objectional- just like the Chinese government does. It can also force websites like 285bound and craigslist to censor and delete content that it finds objectional- or just shut down the website all together. This could go even further than that though- with the government able to squash dissent and opposition. It's pretty scary when the land of the free isn't free at all anymore.

Of course- technology already has copyright solutions for music and movie piracy- the corporations just don't like the price tag- it's easier to censor everyone by lobbying our government to pass even more unreasonable laws.

Additionally- these bills would only affect Americans- the Chinese and others will just continue to steal anything they want because American laws are meaningless to them. These bills will result in more jobs lost - and added costs to websites who are forced to conform to the new regulations.

Just like any new law or regulations- there are unintended negative effects and consequences.

We need fewer regulations- fewer laws- less government- not more government.

And you know what? Want a good analogy for what these bills will do? These bills are like having a law that forces 285bound to be just like Pinecam- with a nanny in charge to scrutinize all the content and delete anything objectional.

I am opposed to any further regulation of the internet.

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18 Jan 2012 09:59 #22 by jf1acai

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As a show of support in protesting the proposed SOPA and PIPA legislation, the WLF Hotlist Forums are blacked-out. We encourage our audience to contact their representatives today and let them know the current proposals are NOT the correct answer.

This is the first time in over 14 years we will be offline for more than a few minutes. We take this issue very seriously. Here is a link to one Washington Post article explaining the bills. Google can provide many thousands more.


http://www.wildlandfire.com/hotlist/index.php

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18 Jan 2012 10:04 #23 by CinnamonGirl
Google's blackout was lame.

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18 Jan 2012 10:47 #24 by OmniScience

CinnamonGirl wrote: Google's blackout was lame.



Why? Remember, there will be untold thousands of people using Google to locate information regarding the proposed bills.
Going 'off-line blackout' would be kind of counter productive.

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18 Jan 2012 11:34 #25 by CinnamonGirl
Here is a good one.


http://theoatmeal.com/

I will post the Animated pick in the Ring because it has curse words that can't be starred.

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18 Jan 2012 16:16 #26 by CinnamonGirl
I heard this today

Under SOPA, you could get 5 years for uploading a Michael Jackson song. One year more than the doctor who killed him.

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18 Jan 2012 18:01 #27 by Reverend Revelant
Corrupt corporate interests?

Chris Dodd: These anti-SOPA websites are abusing their power

You can bet it’s no accident that less than a year after the MPAA hired a former five-term senator (Democratic) as its chief executive we’re seeing this heavy-handed anti-piracy legislation that the MPAA so desperately wants.

Speaking for the motion picture industry, he accuses these websites of “skewing the facts … in order to further their corporate interests.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/01/18/c ... eir-power/


I guess it's alright... the conservatives do it too!

Waiting for Armageddon since 33 AD

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18 Jan 2012 23:00 #28 by UNDER MODERATION
Replied by UNDER MODERATION on topic Should 285Bound.com join the Internet Blackout on 1/18/12?

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote: [That's easy for you to say... I suspect you have never created anything that could be considered intellectual property. I'm a published author... .



Ha ha ha..Published author?

Like you have ever had anything interesting to say...No talent

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18 Jan 2012 23:05 #29 by UNDER MODERATION
Replied by UNDER MODERATION on topic Should 285Bound.com join the Internet Blackout on 1/18/12?

CinnamonGirl wrote: I heard this today

Under SOPA, you could get 5 years for uploading a Michael Jackson song. One year more than the doctor who killed him.



Thats because corporate interests write the laws in this country- You conservatives came out for Wall Street- i'm suprised you aren't in favor of this too? You're against power and freedom for people and argue against your own selfs interests on every issue- whats different here?

Did Rush and Hannity bad mouth SOPA?

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18 Jan 2012 23:52 #30 by ScienceChic
http://www.truth-out.org/blackout-strik ... 1326918870
Blackout Strike: Anonymous Calls for Street Protests; Lawmakers Drop Support of SOPA and PIPA
Wednesday 18 January 2012
by: Mike Ludwig

The decentralized hacktivist network Anonymous has issued a press release calling for physical street protest against the bills, recommending that protesters converge at freeways, malls, libraries and schools. "IF YOUR GOVERNMENT SHUTS DOWN THE INTERNET ... SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT," the release declares.

These withdrawals of support still leave 76 supporters of the bills on the House and Senate and only 31 dedicated opponents, according to a list compiled by ProPublica .

Comcast, Viacom, NBC Universal and industry groups like the Recording Industry Association of America have all joined the US Chamber of Commerce in supporting SOPA. Together, these groups have contributed more than $3.9 million to top members of Congress.


http://motherjones.com/mixed-media/2012/01/sopa-jokes
#SOPA Jokes
—By Nicole Pasulka
| Wed Jan. 18, 2012

NPR Social Media Senior Strategist Andy Carvin set things off:

“███ and a ██████ walk into a bar... #sopajokes
Andy Carvin

And thus a meme was born.

“Well, it turns out that the meaning of life is ████████ and ███████. So obvious. #sopajokes
Derek Fredrickson


http://www.businessreviewusa.com/techno ... ndon-bills
PIPA and SOPA Co-Sponsors Use Facebook to Abandon Bills
Sharise Cruz
18 Jan 2012

Don't ever let anyone tell you there isn't power in the protest. Members of the U.S. Congress have abandoned the controversial Stop Online Privacy Act (SOPA) and Protect Intellectual Property Act (PIPA) in the wake of Wednesday's Internet blackout


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The Day The LOLcats Died - #SOPA #PIPA Protest Song
Uploaded by LaughPong on Jan 17, 2012

Why, why are laws a thing you can buy?
They got paid off, should be laid off, re-election denied
Our web means more than lawyers, lobbies and lies


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