Newts remarks are not racist.

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote:
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But to help you along with your deflection, here is one example of Newt's views on the dependency of blacks on welfare:
"I will go to the NAACP convention and explain to the African-American community why they should demand paychecks instead of food stamps,” said Newt Gingrich at a town hall meeting in New Hampshire.",

Inferring that they African-American community is presently demanding food stamps instead of paychecks. Where does he state that whites should demand paychecks instead of food stamps? Particularly when there are many more whites receiving food stamps than blacks.

Your comment is pathetic liberal spin. You would rather find racism in any remark your political opponent makes instead of considering it there is merit in what he said. Damn the blacks and the browns that you are so fond of claiming that you are trying to help, the only thing they matter to you is as a political prop. Damn the fact that the comment is actually truthful and has nothing to do with hating blacks or trying to make blacks inferior. Damn the fact that the comment actually is truthful and is an extended helpful hand.

No... a liberal wouldn't tell a black to demand a paycheck. That makes them too self-dependent, and less dependent on government. Gee... I wonder why Newt would suggest that blacks demand paychecks? Could it be that "Black unemployment surged to 16.7% in August, its highest level since 1984, while the unemployment rate for whites fell slightly to 8%, the Labor Department reported." Newt is trying to build a bridge to the people in this country that need help the most.

For liberals, code words are used to stop a debate. Calling someone a racist is as easy as calling someone a Nazi. Both requires no proof, no comprehension and they are short, simple words that are hard to misspell. There is nothing racist in what Newt said. He is targeting a group that need help the most. It's a damn sight better than Obama who is trying to divide this country into classes. Newt is speaking to the truth when he says blacks should demand paychecks.

What would you suggest? How about telling blacks to demand something less?

There was a glitch in the submission process.

It is noted that once again you are deflecting. You requested that I offer proof as to why the Newt's remarks were racist and I complied by pointing out that making generalizations based on stereotypes of a class of individuals based on their skin color is the very definitition of racism. Or do you agree that blacks do not want paychecks but food stamps instead?

And yes, 42 is the answer.

It wasn't a generalization. 36% African-American on food stamps... "Black unemployment surged to 16.7%" gee... do you see any correlation? They do need pay checks. And I bet they want them. Obama hasn't delivered. Newt thinks he can. Not racist at all. Why don't you try thinking instead of just dropping debate stopping code words that have no statistics behind them. Unemployment rates and food stamp participation are hard figures... and have nothing to do with racism.

Here's another quote by Newt that people have been blowing the "racist" dog whistle...

In a fiery summons to an important voting bloc, Newt Gingrich told blacks on Saturday to quit crying and complaining and "put on your marching shoes" to follow him into battle for jobs and opportunity.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/2 ... 79708.html

Nothing racist about that.

Something the Dog Said wrote: It is noted that once again you are deflecting. You requested that I offer proof as to why the Newt's remarks were racist and I complied by pointing out that making generalizations based on stereotypes of a class of individuals based on their skin color is the very definitition of racism. Or do you agree that blacks do not want paychecks but food stamps instead?

If you look at the full context and history of what Gingrich said rather than just a snippet, I think even you might agree the comment wasn't racist.

He frequently talks in his stump speaches about urging people (not just blacks) to demand paychecks instead of food stamps. He also has said many times that he would speak to the NAACP if invited (in which case he'd probably be called a racist by the left for speaking to an organization with the words "colored people" in it (I joke)).

The quote that is being circulated came from one instance where Gingrich grouped the two together. And even there he first talked in general terms about people (not just blacks) choosing between paychecks and food stamps.

The more complete statement is:

The fact is if I become your nominee we will make the key test very simple — food stamps versus paychecks. Obama is the best food stamp president in American history. More people are on food stamps today because of Obama's policies than ever in history. I would like to be the best paycheck president in American history.

Now there's no neighborhood I know of in America where if you went around and asked people, would you rather your children had food stamps or paychecks, you wouldn't end up with a majority saying they'd rather have a paycheck.

And so I'm prepared, if the NAACP invites me, I'll go to their convention and talk about why the African-American community should demand paychecks and not be satisfied with food stamps. And I'll go to them and explain a brand new Social Security opportunity for young people, which would be particularly good for African-American males because they are the group that gets the smallest return on social security because they have the shortest life span.

Reading it in fuller context, I think you have to really stretch to call that racist. And yes, I got the full quote from a right wing source, but that is the only place I could find it and I assume he at least got the quote right.

http://rightfanspolitalk.blogspot.com/

pineinthegrass wrote:

Something the Dog Said wrote: It is noted that once again you are deflecting. You requested that I offer proof as to why the Newt's remarks were racist and I complied by pointing out that making generalizations based on stereotypes of a class of individuals based on their skin color is the very definitition of racism. Or do you agree that blacks do not want paychecks but food stamps instead?

If you look at the full context and history of what Gingrich said rather than just a snippet, I think even you might agree the comment wasn't racist.

He frequently talks in his stump speaches about urging people (not just blacks) to demand paychecks instead of food stamps. He also has said many times that he would speak to the NAACP if invited (in which case he'd probably be called a racist by the left for speaking to an organization with the words "colored people" in it (I joke)).

The quote that is being circulated came from one instance where Gingrich grouped the two together. And even there he first talked in general terms about people (not just blacks) choosing between paychecks and food stamps.

The more complete statement is:

The fact is if I become your nominee we will make the key test very simple — food stamps versus paychecks. Obama is the best food stamp president in American history. More people are on food stamps today because of Obama's policies than ever in history. I would like to be the best paycheck president in American history.

Now there's no neighborhood I know of in America where if you went around and asked people, would you rather your children had food stamps or paychecks, you wouldn't end up with a majority saying they'd rather have a paycheck.

And so I'm prepared, if the NAACP invites me, I'll go to their convention and talk about why the African-American community should demand paychecks and not be satisfied with food stamps. And I'll go to them and explain a brand new Social Security opportunity for young people, which would be particularly good for African-American males because they are the group that gets the smallest return on social security because they have the shortest life span.

Reading it in fuller context, I think you have to really stretch to call that racist. And yes, I got the full quote from a right wing source, but that is the only place I could find it and I assume he at least got the quote right.

http://rightfanspolitalk.blogspot.com/

Liberals don't care about context, they don't care about facts, they don't care about the people they call their constituency... unless they can use them as a prop to retain their power. If they really cared about blacks and browns and other minorities, they would be saying the same things as Gingrich. I challenge the liberals on 285 Bound to find a single comment from a Democrat that speaks to the facts that people (any people) would be better off working then being on food stamps.

If Newt believes as you have asserted that blacks as a class prefer paychecks over food stamps, then why is it necessary for him to appear before the NAACP to lecture them that they need paychecks not food stamps.

Something the Dog Said wrote: If Newt believes as you have asserted that blacks as a class prefer paychecks over food stamps, then why is it necessary for him to appear before the NAACP to lecture them that they need paychecks not food stamps.

Same reason that the president made similar remarks... because it needs to be said...

In a fiery summons to an important voting bloc, President Barack Obama told blacks on Saturday to quit crying and complaining and "put on your marching shoes" to follow him into battle for jobs and opportunity.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/2 ... 79708.html

The President is a racist?

Perhaps you could point out where President Obama told them to get off their lazy asses and food stamps? Where did the President infer that blacks prefer food stamps over paychecks? But thanks for answering in your previous request about Democrats pushing for jobs.

See, if you try, you can answer your own questions rather than relying upon the welfare of others to answer them for you.

Gingrich was even called a racist when he called Juan Williams by his first name during a debate. Nevermind that they've both worked for Fox News and probably know each other pretty well.

What if Gingrich had called African Americans "mongrels"?

When asked about his background, which includes a black father and white mother, Obama said of African-Americans: "We are sort of a mongrel people."

"I mean we're all kinds of mixed up," Obama said. "That's actually true of white people as well, but we just know more about it."

Something the Dog Said wrote: Perhaps you could point out where President Obama told them to get off their lazy asses and food stamps? Where did the President infer that blacks prefer food stamps over paychecks? But thanks for answering in your previous request about Democrats pushing for jobs.

See, if you try, you can answer your own questions rather than relying upon the welfare of others to answer them for you.

Perhaps you could show me where Newt used the term "lazy asses"? I'll wait. Pushing for jobs and actually accomplishing that is two different things. You can't answer my questions. Newt's comments are no more racist than the Presidents. You're another one of those divisive progressive, trying to isolate people, instead of trying to bring them together in some sort of agreement. The idiot left is always tooting that old worn phrase "can't we all just get along"? Well the answer is no. The left doesn't want us to get along, they want to isolate the classes, they want to isolate the races... they want to keep the tension and adversarial arrangements because that's the only way you retain power.

The left couldn't exist if everyone was equal. The real racism is on the left.

pineinthegrass wrote: Gingrich was even called a racist when he called Juan Williams by his first name during a debate. Nevermind that they've both worked for Fox News and probably know each other pretty well.

What if Gingrich had called African Americans "mongrels"?

When asked about his background, which includes a black father and white mother, Obama said of African-Americans: "We are sort of a mongrel people."

"I mean we're all kinds of mixed up," Obama said. "That's actually true of white people as well, but we just know more about it."

Something the Dog Dragged In will keep trying to tap dance, but it doesn't change the facts. Obama said it, Newt said it and I hope black leaders are saying it.

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

pineinthegrass wrote: Gingrich was even called a racist when he called Juan Williams by his first name during a debate. Nevermind that they've both worked for Fox News and probably know each other pretty well.

What if Gingrich had called African Americans "mongrels"?

When asked about his background, which includes a black father and white mother, Obama said of African-Americans: "We are sort of a mongrel people."

"I mean we're all kinds of mixed up," Obama said. "That's actually true of white people as well, but we just know more about it."

Something the Dog Dragged In will keep trying to tap dance, but it doesn't change the facts. Obama said it, Newt said it and I hope black leaders are saying it.

Once again you can keep spinning like a Maytag, but Newt's remarks denigrating African Americans as seeking food stamps instead of paychecks is racists, while President Obama's challenge to seek jobs to rise out of income inequality was aspirational.

In the words of a certain poster who pretty much owns the conservatives here, thanks for playing.