Student shares inhaler ----- now facing possible expulsion..

The problem with this is that some of these teachers don't know the first thing about being the adults at school. They are acting like the kids are the adults. There is so many things wrong with this story. I don't know where to begin.

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

Vice Lord wrote: What kid wouldn't want a 3 day suspension anyway? I remember in the 80's If someone called in sick too much at my place of employment they got time off without pay..I called in 19 days one November and December so they called me in and gave me a week off. It just happened to be a thursday between two 3 day weekends so I had eleven days off..I told my wife to pack her bags, were going to Kaui..I was in my hearing at 7am, and we were seated in first class on the plane at 11am..That was the winter of 86 I think..I remember watching Mcmahon lose to the Redskins in the playoffs at 8am there one morning...Anyway, its was -20 in Chicago the whole time we were gone...Some punishment huh?

Leave it to Voice Loud to totally miss the point.

What i'm saying is..Who cares? The kids not going to jail..This is one of those "Dodge Ball banned at school" stories that gets retards like you all upset..

Vice Lord wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

Vice Lord wrote: What kid wouldn't want a 3 day suspension anyway? I remember in the 80's If someone called in sick too much at my place of employment they got time off without pay..I called in 19 days one November and December so they called me in and gave me a week off. It just happened to be a thursday between two 3 day weekends so I had eleven days off..I told my wife to pack her bags, were going to Kaui..I was in my hearing at 7am, and we were seated in first class on the plane at 11am..That was the winter of 86 I think..I remember watching Mcmahon lose to the Redskins in the playoffs at 8am there one morning...Anyway, its was -20 in Chicago the whole time we were gone...Some punishment huh?

Leave it to Voice Loud to totally miss the point.

What i'm saying is..Who cares? The kids not going to jail..This is one of those "Dodge Ball banned at school" stories that gets retards like you all upset..

You certainly seem to know a lot about dodge ball?

Vice Lord wrote: Zero tolerance policies designed by facist conservatives- They want everybody walking in lockstep, even our kids

Facist conservatives? I think is it school boards who are too worried about being sued if they favor one student over another for commiting any infraction.

"The problem" is there are too many who do not wish to live and let live. Firstly, the action being questioned had no negative consequences. Secondly, the action was taken because there was genuine concern for the well being of another human being. Thirdly, there obviously is no policy in place to cover such a situation or the rules would have been spelled out in advance just like the rules for every other movement in a school are spelled out, i.e. "No running in the halls". Rather than taking responsibility for not anticipating this type of event, they chose to shunt the responsibility on a youngster who was acting on good faith. The fact of possible dire consequences was not even a consideration. Frankly, this whole situation highlights the worst of our educational systems today. The focus is on all the wrong things and good real learning lessons are lost completely. It's a tragedy.

No negative consequences...interesting. so if someone shoots at you and misses we let them go because there were no negative consequences? My daughter used an inhaler...she was told by the doctor and me never to let someone else use it because there could be negative consequences.

However...I do agree that this could be a good chance to discuss with all the students the dangers of prescription drugs.

Seems to be a case of common sense vs. zero tolerance rules and regulations. Why can't the teachers and the administration of a public school system do what it takes to keep kids safe? They don't want to get sued if things go awry while they are in charge; I wouldn't want to explain to a parent why their child died at school when fellow students could have saved their child's life. Zero tolerance rules give the administration of the school a legal out, I can't help but wonder how some of those people sleep at night.

And if the child had ended up hospitalized from being given that inhaler.....who then would you have blamed?

archer wrote: And if the child had ended up hospitalized from being given that inhaler.....who then would you have blamed?

So you would rather tell the parents that you and the students could have done something to save their child but "you know, the rules say we can't do that..." I think parents would rather know someone tried to save their child's life instead of just standing there and watching their child die.

otisptoadwater wrote:

archer wrote: And if the child had ended up hospitalized from being given that inhaler.....who then would you have blamed?

So you would rather tell the parents that you and the students could have done something to save their child but "you know, the rules say we can't do that..." I think parents would rather know someone tried to save their child's life instead of just standing there and watching their child die.

You missed my point, maybe I wasn't making myself clear.....the question was who would you blame if the child ended up hospitalized from a bad reaction to the medicine in the inhaler? I did not get the impression that the child was in acute distress....if so....why wasn't 911 called? I get the feeling that this was a no win for the school, either way they would get blamed for either doing to much, or not doing enough. They would be blamed by some for over reacting to this, and by others for not taking it seriously enough. Lose-lose for the school.