What kind of stupid thing is this to say?

27 Feb 2012 08:31 #1 by CinnamonGirl
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“President Obama once said he wants everybody in America to go to college. What a snob,” said the former senator from Pennsylvania. “There are good, decent men and women who go out and work hard every day and put their skills to test that aren’t taught by some liberal college professor to try to indoctrinate them. Oh, I understand why he wants you to go to college. He wants to remake you in his image.”

~~ Rick Santorum

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/201 ... erity.html

I swear why do these guys do this? What a stupid thing to say.

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27 Feb 2012 08:38 #2 by LadyJazzer
Just keep doin' what yer doin'...

Oh, god, PLEASE let Santorum be the nominee....

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27 Feb 2012 08:44 #3 by 2wlady
Just that: Stupid AND IGNORANT

From Wikipedia:

Born in Virginia, Rick Santorum was raised primarily in Butler, Pennsylvania. He obtained an undergraduate degree from Pennsylvania State University, an M.B.A. from the University of Pittsburgh, and a law degree degree from the Dickinson School of Law.


So, let's see. Some mighty snobby institutions of higher learning here. Yet, no one should strive to go to college or else they're a snob?

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27 Feb 2012 08:51 #4 by FredHayek
Well, some could say Obama is a snob by implying that everyone needs to go to college.
Not everyone wants or needs to go to a traditional four year college. And are there enough jobs for all these college graduates loaded down with debt? Seems to me we have enough fine arts majors working as baristas.

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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27 Feb 2012 08:56 #5 by The Boss
I know that's crazy if everyone in the US goes to college, what a waste, so many essential jobs don't need college and why would we want people out of the workforce not providing for themselves for so long.

We need to stop the education myth that college just makes everything better. College is advanced training for some fields. If everyone goes to college, we will see all manufacturing and real work go oversees due to expense. People who go to college expect to be paid more for their work regardless of the quality or productivity.

Though I will admit, Santorum generally sounds "stupid" and extreme, he is right that we should not be pushing people into college, that would be a very conservative way of thinking, specifically about the individual, that this one person will make more if he goes to college, but if everyone goes, we are screwed, we have lost lots of value so the liberal way of thinking, if thought through, is to just have the appropriate amount of people to go to college so that society benefits in stead of the individual that goes. If everyone goes to college, we will have to have a super college degree to stand out. This is just a pissing match, if we are all peeing the same distance, it does not matter if it is 1' or 3'.

Education is good, but higher education is only for those that want to be in specific fields AND have the little extra amount of mental capacity to excel at them and aid society in the process. You don't want your checkout girl or gas pumper to go to college, though soon I bet they will need licenses for their jobs. Also to want this when college is starting to cost far more than it's market value, society def looses when you pay more than market value for anything.

But nevermind, it is easier to just say "college good" "no college bad" and ignore what will happen and the ruin that would come if everyone had higher education, unless people with college degrees are ready to stand on their feet all day and assemble Ipads, if so then I am wrong, but if that was my job, I would rather have it for another 10% of my life making money vs. borrowing 15 years worth of pay to stand there doing it while thinking about academics outside of my job. Even worse would be to distribute this valueless higher education for those that don't need it via taxes.

If you want the best for America as a whole, you should not want everyone to get educated...and it took a lot of eduction to get me to the point where I know this :)

At $40 an hour total employer burden vs. say $17 for a checkout girl, if you had a big $120 shopping trip to king soopers that took 10 minutes to check out, that would be an extra $8 or so just for the checkout girl....then the next day she is wondering why she spent so many years in college, because she just got fired due to self checkout and self gas pumping. The cool part now is that before they shut off her cable in a couple of days, she can watch the discover chanel and really think deeply about what she is watching.

College is not for everyone but Santorum is a little off and Obama is a snob.

I have a nephew that does pump gas and is happy doing it, any of you nonsnobs willing to chip in so he can do his job with a degree? We can solve this "problem" together without the govt, I just need you to put your money where your keyboard is, or were you planning on using my money for that?

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27 Feb 2012 09:04 #6 by CinnamonGirl
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No matter if you agree or not, and I happen to think our young people are getting snowed, thinking that college cures everything and automatically gives you a great job. Colleges are costing more and more and the drinking culture does little. But education is never a bad thing.

However, Santorum still said a really stupid thing. He just alienated alot of people. There are so many things to go after Obama on and this was just stupid.

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27 Feb 2012 09:09 #7 by Photo-fish
Another example of where he will lose the 'Independent' vote.

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27 Feb 2012 09:16 #8 by FredHayek
I did have to laugh about the conservative talking point that colleges are only used to indoctrinate people into becoming lefties, while most of the professors are left leaning, I don't think college graduates are automatically lefties. I became a lefty-social justice type in college but saw the light before graduating. And I think most people are able to see through the propaganda.

The independent vote? You really think they are going to be more upset about a snobby college comment or $6 gasoline and 9% unemployment?

Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.

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27 Feb 2012 12:12 #9 by homeagain
As an INDY....I am truly ticked at the R's LACK of real candidates......the whole field is a disgrace (perhaps the exception is
Paul)......the R's are imploding and O needs to truly step up and "bring it".......it is a DISMAL display of ineffectiveness,as we move
forward to Q4 and the election. JMO

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27 Feb 2012 12:27 #10 by JSG
Among today’s American 25- to 34-year olds, slightly more than 40 percent have associate’s degrees or higher. But that rate places the US only 12th of the 36 countries in a College Board study of countries with the highest graduation rates. Here are the top six countries.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Education/ ... .9-percent

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