What's missing from the Trayvon Martin tragedy?

25 Mar 2012 01:00 #1 by Soulshiner
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/03/ ... artin.html


"Think about it. Every other situation in which an innocent person gets gunned down there is a cacophony of gun nuts screeching that if only this person had been armed he could have defended himself. It's been the basis of every concealed and open carry argument for the last couple of decades."

When you plant ice you're going to harvest wind. - Robert Hunter

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25 Mar 2012 01:47 #2 by PrintSmith
Maybe Martin isn't innocent.........maybe the innocent person was packing a gun which is why the altercation ended the way that it did. Do you think the blogger ever stopped to consider it from that point of view before hitting the submit button SS? Me either, because the blogger is convinced that Martin did nothing wrong and that Zimmerman did everything wrong for some odd reason.

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25 Mar 2012 07:53 #3 by 2wlady
Most people who think Zimmerman is in the wrong think so because he ignored the 911 dispatcher by following Trayvon and getting out of his car and confronting him, starting a cycle of events that ended in the death of Trayvon.

Oh, yeah, let's suppose Trayvon was carrying a gun. There's been no report that he was, that I know of. PS, you chastise the rest of us for making suppositions and here you go again.

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25 Mar 2012 08:37 #4 by cydl
Had 17-year-old Martin been carrying a firearm he would have been doing so illegally and this news story would have taken on an entirely differently timbre.

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25 Mar 2012 10:05 #5 by JSG

PrintSmith wrote: Maybe Martin isn't innocent.........maybe the innocent person was packing a gun which is why the altercation ended the way that it did..


Maybe Martin was a space alien.

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25 Mar 2012 10:09 - 25 Mar 2012 10:10 #6 by Martin Ent Inc
His face book profile shows him flashing gang banger symbols and acting like a wannavee banger.

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25 Mar 2012 10:10 #7 by JSG
Well, there you go. Reason enough to kill him.

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25 Mar 2012 12:40 #8 by PrintSmith

2wlady wrote: Most people who think Zimmerman is in the wrong think so because he ignored the 911 dispatcher by following Trayvon and getting out of his car and confronting him, starting a cycle of events that ended in the death of Trayvon.

Oh, yeah, let's suppose Trayvon was carrying a gun. There's been no report that he was, that I know of. PS, you chastise the rest of us for making suppositions and here you go again.

My chastisement was directed at the blogger 2. I was pointing out that it may well be that there wasn't an "innocent person who was gunned down" in this incident.

We don't know that Zimmerman "confronted" Martin - all we know is that there was a physical altercation between them during which Zimmerman sustained a gash in the back of his head, a broken nose and facial bruising before shooting Martin.

For the sake of discussion, let's accept that Zimmerman did confront Martin and demanded to know what he was doing in the neighborhood. What would you think happened next based on the final outcome? Would you think that Martin responded in a passive or an aggressive manner? Let us also, for the sake of discussion accept that after the initial contact Zimmerman demanded that Martin wait with him until the police, who had already been called, showed up. Again, based on the final outcome, do you think Martin complied or resisted?

The point here is that the only situation in which we have "an innocent person gunned down" would be one in which Zimmerman drew his gun and shot Martin at the start of the confrontation. We know that didn)'t happen because Zimmerman sustained injuries consistent with a fight between them occurring prior to Martin being shot and we have a witness saying that Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating him about the head while Zimmerman cried out for help. How then does the blogger arrive at the conclusion that "an innocent person.was gunned down."

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25 Mar 2012 12:48 #9 by JSG
From the witness statements I think Zimmerman confronted Martin, words were exchanged and Martin kicked his *ss, even though he was smaller. It's still not justification for shooting an unarmed person. From the reports of how often Zimmerman called 911 to complain about stuff in the neighborhood, he comes across to me as a real neighborhood whimp with a gun.

Trayvon engaged in another known gang activity:

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25 Mar 2012 13:58 #10 by Arlen
Martin was probably a Democrat.

(I love speculation. Don't you?)

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