The LA Times is saying that the conservative wing of the Supreme Court is ready to throw the baby out with the bathwater. They would repeal all of Obamacare just based on the mandatory requirement.
This would be huge! I can't imagine the current Congress being able to cobble together a compromise for this session, or even if the Dems take the house back, for Obamacare to be modified and passed.
Guess we will have to wait until June to see if this actually does happen, but you have to think it will be leaked before that since it is such a powerful beatdown on the President.
rofllol I would imagine the Supremes and their clerks will be pestered 24/7 by people who want to know their individual decisions.
Thomas Sowell: There are no solutions, just trade-offs.
Yes, it would confirm what we already know--That the Supreme Court is not a "court", but the third arm of the GOP. Hmmm, "Bush v. Gore": 5-4 to stop the vote-count in Florida (which, if it had been allowed to be completed, would have put Gore in the White House instead of Doofus); Citizens United: 5-4 to make Corporations "people" (except when it doesn't suit them...like murder charges and liability suits); and if this goes through, 5-4 to support the GOP line of reasoning that it's okay for people to be irresponsible and just go to the emergency room if they don't have health insurance, and force all of the other taxpayers to pay for their irresponsibility--(as opposed to the Obama plan, which requires people to be responsible and NOT saddle other taxpayers with their refusal to be responsible.)
Yep...It will prove that the SCOTUS is no longer a real court, but a third branch of the GOP....
LadyJazzer wrote: Yes, it would confirm what we already know--That the Supreme Court is not a "court", but the third arm of the GOP. Hmmm, "Bush v. Gore": 5-4 to stop the vote-count in Florida (which, if it had been allowed to be completed, would have put Gore in the White House instead of Doofus); Citizens United: 5-4 to make Corporations "people" (except when it doesn't suit them...like murder charges and liability suits); and if this goes through, 5-4 to support the GOP line of reasoning that it's okay for people to be irresponsible and just go the emergency room if they don't have health insurance, and force all of the other taxpayers to pay for their irresponsibility--(as opposed to the Obama plan, which requires people to be responsible and NOT saddle other taxpayers with their refusal to be responsible.)
Yep...It will prove that the SCOTUS is no longer a real court, but a third branch of the GOP....
Unfortunately, it is about when they die and who is prez when that happens.
Another possibility is they (some) are just doing their job and upholding the Constitution?
FredHayek wrote: The LA Times is saying that the conservative wing of the Supreme Court is ready to throw the baby out with the bathwater. They would repeal all of Obamacare just based on the mandatory requirement.
I was surprised by this, too (Savage from the LA Times article was one of three reporters watching the testimony.) I thought some of the law would stand, and Congress would have to modify the rest. It would be a mess though, with Repubs in control of the house. For example, they would attack the taxes in the bill. So if the bill fails, do the taxes get refunded that are already paid? LOL
This Socialized health care bill was doomed from the minute the Demoncrats decided to ram this law down our throats at any cost.
It was doomed the minute they chose to ignore the constitution- and pass a law that they knew was un-constitutional.
It was doomed the minute they saw that there was ZERO support from Republicans. Only one voted for it- Olympia Snow- a yellow bellied RINO.
It takes a supreme level of arrogance- at any level of government to pass laws in violation of the intent and letter of the highest law of the land. This law deserves to be thrown out in it's entirety- because of all those reasons.
I hope it comes to pass that it all gets thrown out- this law will not help - it will make things worse, and bankrupt the country by forcing another 20% of the economy into total government control.
And LJ is right- the Supreme Court is not a court- not with people like "sotomayor the wise latina" and Ruth Bader Ginsburg. These people are legislating from the bench.
LadyJazzer wrote: Yes, it would confirm what we already know--That the Supreme Court is not a "court", but the third arm of the GOP. Hmmm, "Bush v. Gore": 5-4 to stop the vote-count in Florida (which, if it had been allowed to be completed, would have put Gore in the White House instead of Doofus); Citizens United: 5-4 to make Corporations "people" (except when it doesn't suit them...like murder charges and liability suits); and if this goes through, 5-4 to support the GOP line of reasoning that it's okay for people to be irresponsible and just go to the emergency room if they don't have health insurance, and force all of the other taxpayers to pay for their irresponsibility--(as opposed to the Obama plan, which requires people to be responsible and NOT saddle other taxpayers with their refusal to be responsible.)
Yep...It will prove that the SCOTUS is no longer a real court, but a third branch of the GOP....
It's been a branch of the Democrats for going on 70 years now - and a branch intent on expanding federal power for 200 or more years. It's about time the court was populated once again by a majority of justices who both understand what republicanism is all about and recognize that the Constitution created a system of coordinate republican governance for the union and not a central government possessed with the plenary power to do whatever it wished, whenever it wished, to whomever it wishes under thinly veiled claims that they keep finding dogs that haven't barked for 100, 150, 200 years that have just now found a voice to bark with.
Corporations were determined to have many of the same rights as citizens much, much earlier than Citizen's United - anyone with any appreciation of the union's history knows that. The first such ruling was in 1819 in Dartmouth College v Woodward. Corporations were recognized as having the same rights as people with regards to the 14th Amendment in the 1886 decision of Santa Clara County v Southern Pacific Railroad. You can't blame a current court for holding to the principles of stare decisis and adhering to, as you like to refer to it, "settled law" and then claim that it is a "third arm of the GOP" with a straight face hoping that you will be be seen a credible and worthy of being believed, can you?
If you don't like being forced to pay for the emergency care of those without health insurance, why not lobby the general government to get rid of the mandate that makes you pay for it? The problem is a creation of the general government to begin with and it appears that the SCOTUS is rightly going to say that it isn't allowed to violate the Constitution and force citizens to sign contracts in order to fix the problem they created with their earlier legislative mandates aimed at violating state sovereignty.
I'm looking forward to June when the signature piece of legislation crammed through by Democrats with either no understanding of, or no respect for, the supreme law of the union is set aside and the founding principles of a federal government of limited powers is upheld.
