faith & politics

22 Apr 2012 09:47 #1 by bailey bud
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The Denver Post hit this topic, today.

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22 Apr 2012 09:54 #2 by Arlen
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I believe that this is wishful thinking by the left. The left would like to divorce religion from conservative politics.

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22 Apr 2012 10:09 #3 by LadyJazzer
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Exactly what I've been saying for a couple of years now. The Christian conservatives are aging and dying off, and the younger generation are getting fed up with the institutionalized bigotry and wedge issues. They see the religious institutions as monuments to exclusionary politics and marginalizing other people, and it's the church's own extremism that's pushing them away.

So why are Christians — real, churchgoing Christians — leaving the faith later in life?

No single reason dominated the break-up between church and young adults. Instead, a variety of reasons emerged. Overall, the research uncovered six significant themes why nearly three out of every five young Christians (59%) disconnect either permanently or for an extended period of time from church life after age 15.

In short…

1. The Church is too insular — They tell you everything outside the church is bad and wrong… even though young people know that’s not the case.
2. Church isn’t important, relevant, or interesting to the younger generation.
3. Christians are too anti-science.
4. Christians are sex-negative, wrongly pushing abstinence-only education and avoiding frank discussions about sex.
5. Christianity is too “exclusive” — you’re either one of them or you’re the enemy.
6. Christians are hostile to those who doubt any part of the faith.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... hes-fault/

Wishful thinking? Hardly. The statistics from any number of sources prove it. It's wishful thinking on the part of the Right that it's NOT true.

From your own article:

According to a 2011 study by the Public Religion Research Institute, more than half — 52 percent — of white evangelicals under the age of 40 believe gay and lesbian relationships should be accepted by society, compared with 33 percent of white evangelicals over 40. Other polls show a similar gap on other social issues such as the environment and foreign policy, and it is beginning to show up at the ballot box.

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22 Apr 2012 10:15 - 22 Apr 2012 10:16 #4 by Arlen
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Your link and quote is an opinion from a blog.
In fact your quote does not address the idea that younger Christians are clinging to their religion and rejecting conservativism.
Your quote is only obfuscation.

But, thanks for playing.

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22 Apr 2012 10:16 #5 by LadyJazzer
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My quote is my quote, and I don't give a sh*t if you like it or not.

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22 Apr 2012 10:17 #6 by Arlen
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Gotcha!!!

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22 Apr 2012 12:19 #7 by LadyJazzer
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Some other interesting quotes from the OP's article:

"Progressive politics talk a lot about caring for the poor. There are six verses about homosexuality (in the Bible), and over 3,000 verses about caring for the poor. There's nothing in the Bible about free-market capitalism," Jones said.

Jones — involved with an emergent church in Minneapolis, Solomon's Porch — said that these young Christians are often bothered by the assumption that being a Christian means being a Republican. They aren't anti-conservative, Jones said, but they just don't see the correlation.

"I cannot vote for any of the Republican candidates until they stop being so divisive and preying on peoples' fears. I might line up with them a bit more fiscally, but I cannot vote for the way they are dividing this country,"said Jim Smelser, a former staff member at a Chicago megachurch who now attends an emergent church in Denver called House for all Sinners and Saints.


Amen....

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22 Apr 2012 13:31 #8 by Arlen
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The article is an opinion piece from one person. 'nuff said.

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22 Apr 2012 13:40 - 22 Apr 2012 13:42 #9 by Residenttroll returns
Fact remains...liberal education institutions have undermined Christianity and want us to embrace a godless society. The fruits of liberalism isnt a progressive youth.....it's a me generation that raises dogs instead of children, a me generation that is sexualized, a me generation that is lost in -isms.

The lost of a moral compass is what perverts and others who want to enslave this generation benefit from.

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22 Apr 2012 13:41 #10 by LadyJazzer
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And it's my opinion as well... 'Nuff said.

Yeah, I guess the part about:

According to a 2011 study by the Public Religion Research Institute , more than half — 52 percent — of white evangelicals under the age of 40 believe gay and lesbian relationships should be accepted by society, compared with 33 percent of white evangelicals over 40. Other polls show a similar gap on other social issues such as the environment and foreign policy, and it is beginning to show up at the ballot box.


...was an opinion too...

And: ""There certainly is a shift with young people," said Alyssa Farah, communications manager for the College Republican National Committee. "

Just an opinion--from the College REPUBLICAN National Committee....

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