Born in Kenya? Obama bio raises doubts - again!

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

jmc wrote: If the original post was even remotely true, why hasn't Fox or some other semi-reputable news organization run with this? Or some of the right wing PACS? Maybe they are saving this new bombshell for later.
Oh right they are afraid of the pinko lefties.

You see... the original post is true... as verified by Miriam Goderich's statement in my post, who was then his literary agent and claims to have wrote this bio and by Miriam Goderich's statement in Lady Jazzer's post (did you even read the whole thread?). And why would you believe Fox any more than the sources already quoted in this thread.

And my main thrust in this thread is as I stated...

There is no way that President Obama did not see, or know about this bio that existed since 1991 and published by his literary agent. Miriam Goderich claims she NEVER received any information by Obama using this sort of language? Then what did she do? Make this up from whole-cloth? Threw a dart at a world globe and it stuck in Kenya? I'm a published author, and I am also a part time professional performer of 40 years. I've written and rewritten dozens of bios that have been placed on my published works or in programs. If an author or performer doesn't have a pre-designed bio, then the agency may write one, but they would never publish it FOR 16 YEARS without having the author (or performer) vet the material. In the real world that doesn't happen... and not for 16 years.

In the least we have another example of pandering to the multi-cultural multi-racial affirmative action mentality of the left (ala Elizabeth Warren "I'm 1/32 Cherokee") where President Obama and/or his literary agent realized that creating an exotic (but untruthful) bio would weave a colorful and interesting backstory for her client.

That must make it true. You still didn't answer my question. Why has no major,reputable news org. picked this "story" up? It would win a Pulitzer.

Before the liberals dismiss this too quickly, please go to archive.org and take a look for yourself.
http://web.archive.org/web/20070403190001/http://www.dystel.com/clientlist.html#o

This website is not a news organization and is not political. They archive books, media of all sorts, and websites. They are non-political.

This is the most unbiased type of prime source that can be had.

jmc wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

jmc wrote: If the original post was even remotely true, why hasn't Fox or some other semi-reputable news organization run with this? Or some of the right wing PACS? Maybe they are saving this new bombshell for later.
Oh right they are afraid of the pinko lefties.

You see... the original post is true... as verified by Miriam Goderich's statement in my post, who was then his literary agent and claims to have wrote this bio and by Miriam Goderich's statement in Lady Jazzer's post (did you even read the whole thread?). And why would you believe Fox any more than the sources already quoted in this thread.

And my main thrust in this thread is as I stated...

There is no way that President Obama did not see, or know about this bio that existed since 1991 and published by his literary agent. Miriam Goderich claims she NEVER received any information by Obama using this sort of language? Then what did she do? Make this up from whole-cloth? Threw a dart at a world globe and it stuck in Kenya? I'm a published author, and I am also a part time professional performer of 40 years. I've written and rewritten dozens of bios that have been placed on my published works or in programs. If an author or performer doesn't have a pre-designed bio, then the agency may write one, but they would never publish it FOR 16 YEARS without having the author (or performer) vet the material. In the real world that doesn't happen... and not for 16 years.

In the least we have another example of pandering to the multi-cultural multi-racial affirmative action mentality of the left (ala Elizabeth Warren "I'm 1/32 Cherokee") where President Obama and/or his literary agent realized that creating an exotic (but untruthful) bio would weave a colorful and interesting backstory for her client.

That must make it true. You still didn't answer my question. Why has no major,reputable news org. picked this "story" up? It would win a Pulitzer.

Breitbart already has the story whether you consider them reputable or not (I don't, but the literary agent has confirmed the story). So it doesn't matter at this point... if anyone may win a Pulitzer, it would be Breitbart (although I doubt it). If you actually read the story at Breitbart, Breitbart is not claiming this story proves a Kenyan birth (for a matter of fact Breitbart was not a "birther" and publicly stated that) but it calls in question Obama's honesty.

If you don't believe the story, doesn't matter, it's true. What do you think, the ex-literary agent is in cahoots with the right?

Arlen wrote: Before the liberals dismiss this too quickly, please go to archive.org and take a look for yourself.
http://web.archive.org/web/20070403190001/http://www.dystel.com/clientlist.html#o

This website is not a news organization and is not political. They archive books, media of all sorts, and websites. They are non-political.

This is the most unbiased type of prime source that can be had.

JMC is not dismissing anything.. he's trying to deflect... change the subject. All of the necessary information to show that this story is absolutely true is presented on this thread, and he knows that. He's so transparent.

Here is Dystel & Goderich's requirements for consideration for their unsolicited inclusion in their promotional literature:
(Remember Obama submitted his bio "unsolicited")

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Arlen wrote: Here is Dystel & Goderich's requirements for consideration for their unsolicited inclusion in their promotional literature:
(Remember Obama submitted his bio "unsolicited")
http://web.archive.org/web/20070403185824/http://www.dystel.com/submit.html

Arlen

I think you are confused. Obama was an author for this agency. When Miriam Goderich says the bio was unsolicited, she is saying that Obama did not give them the biographic information, she claims she wrote it herself. This document you are quoting above is in regards to prospective authors who would like to be represented by her agency. Obama was already represented by this agency when she claims she wrote the bio.

My contention is that she would never just make up a bio without having it vetted by the author. And this bio appeared for 16 years in various publications and on their website. Obama had to have knowledge of what was said in this bio.

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

Arlen wrote: Here is Dystel & Goderich's requirements for consideration for their unsolicited inclusion in their promotional literature:
(Remember Obama submitted his bio "unsolicited")
http://web.archive.org/web/20070403185824/http://www.dystel.com/submit.html

Arlen

I think you are confused. Obama was an author for this agency. When Miriam Goderich says the bio was unsolicited, she is saying that Obama did not give them the biographic information, she claims she wrote it herself. This document you are quoting above is in regards to prospective authors who would like to be represented by her agency. Obama was already represented by this agency when she claims she wrote the bio.

My contention is that she would never just make up a bio without having it vetted by the author. And this bio appeared for 16 years in various publications and on their website. Obama had to have knowledge of what was said in this bio.

But he never heard anything racist after listening to his racist reverend for 20 years...maybe he's just that clueless and never read his own bio.

CritiKalbILL wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

Arlen wrote: Here is Dystel & Goderich's requirements for consideration for their unsolicited inclusion in their promotional literature:
(Remember Obama submitted his bio "unsolicited")
http://web.archive.org/web/20070403185824/http://www.dystel.com/submit.html

Arlen

I think you are confused. Obama was an author for this agency. When Miriam Goderich says the bio was unsolicited, she is saying that Obama did not give them the biographic information, she claims she wrote it herself. This document you are quoting above is in regards to prospective authors who would like to be represented by her agency. Obama was already represented by this agency when she claims she wrote the bio.

My contention is that she would never just make up a bio without having it vetted by the author. And this bio appeared for 16 years in various publications and on their website. Obama had to have knowledge of what was said in this bio.

But he never heard anything racist after listening to his racist reverend for 20 years...maybe he's just that clueless and never read his own bio.

I hope you were being sarcastic. I've had my bio's in numerous entertainment publications, programs, newspapers, flyers and advertisements for about 40 years. I assure you that in all these cases, unless I submitted the material myself, I have had the opportunity to review the material and approve the final version.

Obama knew.

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

Arlen wrote: Here is Dystel & Goderich's requirements for consideration for their unsolicited inclusion in their promotional literature:
(Remember Obama submitted his bio "unsolicited")
http://web.archive.org/web/20070403185824/http://www.dystel.com/submit.html

Arlen

I think you are confused. Obama was an author for this agency. When Miriam Goderich says the bio was unsolicited, she is saying that Obama did not give them the biographic information, she claims she wrote it herself. This document you are quoting above is in regards to prospective authors who would like to be represented by her agency. Obama was already represented by this agency when she claims she wrote the bio.

My contention is that she would never just make up a bio without having it vetted by the author. And this bio appeared for 16 years in various publications and on their website. Obama had to have knowledge of what was said in this bio.

Go back and read it again. They only wrote the bio after Obama submitted his application to be represented by them.

He supplied the information as per their requirements.

Arlen wrote:

The Liberals GOP Twin wrote:

Arlen wrote: Here is Dystel & Goderich's requirements for consideration for their unsolicited inclusion in their promotional literature:
(Remember Obama submitted his bio "unsolicited")
http://web.archive.org/web/20070403185824/http://www.dystel.com/submit.html

Arlen

I think you are confused. Obama was an author for this agency. When Miriam Goderich says the bio was unsolicited, she is saying that Obama did not give them the biographic information, she claims she wrote it herself. This document you are quoting above is in regards to prospective authors who would like to be represented by her agency. Obama was already represented by this agency when she claims she wrote the bio.

My contention is that she would never just make up a bio without having it vetted by the author. And this bio appeared for 16 years in various publications and on their website. Obama had to have knowledge of what was said in this bio.

Go back and read it again. They only wrote the bio after Obama submitted his application to be represented by them.

He supplied the information as per their requirements.

I'm sorry... you're right... Obama did have to submit that information. Then he himself claimed he was born in Kenya.