Where do we go from here?

Jonathan Hemlock wrote: It is now time to decide! Do we favor increasing governmental control, assistance, rewards and entitlements, or do we favor personal responsibility with individuality and the promise that good and fair lifelong practices, associated with a quality product, plus sound customer support and high performance, will always lead to success?

The problem is that we've seen the results when you trust people and corporations to use good and fair practices. Greed leads them to lie, cheat and steal and take the rest of us down with them. THAT'S why we're in the position we're in. Greedy bankers and Wall Streeters said no one is watching, let's screw them all.

Something the Dog Said wrote:

PrintSmith wrote: The division originates from the divergence of opinion regarding whether we are 50 sovereign States that have decided to cooperate with each other and delegated the power to exercise a limited portion of the individual sovereignty possessed to a common entity or whether we are in every instance a single sovereign entity.

There is not a single doubt in my mind that I am not a citizen of 50 States and that I am in fact a citizen of only one of them, the State of Colorado is the only one of the 50 of which I am a citizen. The United States exists only outside of them; when we refer to our own union we refer to these United States because they are, in fact, individually free and independent States.

And here I thought we were "one nation" "indivisible with liberty and justice for all" and that "We the People of the United States, in Order toform a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility,provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure theBlessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establishthis Constitution for the United States of America."

Guess we need to do some rewriting of history to suit Printsmith.

Nah... It's just the usual "Sovereign Citizen"/Revisionist-history bullsh*t. Nothing new to see here folks, move on...

CritiKalBill wrote: Once we have more than half the country dependant on government entitlements, our hope for electing leaders who understand and are willing to fix the problem will be forever lost. We're almost there.

I think history will show we already crossed that point in 2008, and the next decade was waffling back and forth try to decide if we should turn around or kick the can. Ultimately the credit markets will make the decision when we hit the wall. The deficit/debt, death spiral will end someday, either by internal political forces or external market forces, it's as certain as the laws of Physics.

Soulshiner wrote:

Jonathan Hemlock wrote: It is now time to decide! Do we favor increasing governmental control, assistance, rewards and entitlements, or do we favor personal responsibility with individuality and the promise that good and fair lifelong practices, associated with a quality product, plus sound customer support and high performance, will always lead to success?

The problem is that we've seen the results when you trust people and corporations to use good and fair practices. Greed leads them to lie, cheat and steal and take the rest of us down with them. THAT'S why we're in the position we're in. Greedy bankers and Wall Streeters said no one is watching, let's screw them all.

Are you sure it wasn't that gallon of free milk and box of cereal that poor single mothers get for thier infants once a month?