- Posts: 30802
- Thank you received: 179
Something the Dog Said wrote: So the GOP now have discovered a new biological principle, unknown to medical science. According to Missouri Republican Senator candidate Akin:
""If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down," Akin continued. He did not provide an explanation for what constituted "legitimate rape."
That is wrong on so many levels. First, what is a "legitimate" rape? As opposed to "Illegitimate" rape. That is as bad as the Republicans earlier attempt to redefine "forcible" rape. No means no.
Second, what science is there that "the female body" will shut "that whole thing down"? Really? This principle is apparently only known to male white conserative Republicans.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
So the bill didn't actually deny abortions it simply removed federal funding?Democracy4Sale wrote: Apparently, at least Akin and Ryan...Since they both cosponsored the "Fetal Personhood" bill which would have denied abortions with no exceptions for rape or incest.
Thanks GOP for the-gift-that-keeps-on-giving, Paul Ryan....and Todd Akin...and Mitt-the-Twit RMoney
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Grady wrote:
So the bill didn't actually deny abortions it simply removed federal funding?Democracy4Sale wrote: Apparently, at least Akin and Ryan...Since they both cosponsored the "Fetal Personhood" bill which would have denied abortions with no exceptions for rape or incest.
Thanks GOP for the-gift-that-keeps-on-giving, Paul Ryan....and Todd Akin...and Mitt-the-Twit RMoney
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
FredHayek wrote:
Something the Dog Said wrote: So the GOP now have discovered a new biological principle, unknown to medical science. According to Missouri Republican Senator candidate Akin:
""If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down," Akin continued. He did not provide an explanation for what constituted "legitimate rape."
That is wrong on so many levels. First, what is a "legitimate" rape? As opposed to "Illegitimate" rape. That is as bad as the Republicans earlier attempt to redefine "forcible" rape. No means no.
Second, what science is there that "the female body" will shut "that whole thing down"? Really? This principle is apparently only known to male white conserative Republicans.
Unfair to declare that this is the belief of all Republicans.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
In your little echo chamber, you may think 90% of women support abortion rights, but it is closer to only 60%. About the current percentage of women who vote Dem. So don't get overconfident there.Soulshiner wrote:
FredHayek wrote:
Something the Dog Said wrote: So the GOP now have discovered a new biological principle, unknown to medical science. According to Missouri Republican Senator candidate Akin:
""If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down," Akin continued. He did not provide an explanation for what constituted "legitimate rape."
That is wrong on so many levels. First, what is a "legitimate" rape? As opposed to "Illegitimate" rape. That is as bad as the Republicans earlier attempt to redefine "forcible" rape. No means no.
Second, what science is there that "the female body" will shut "that whole thing down"? Really? This principle is apparently only known to male white conserative Republicans.
Unfair to declare that this is the belief of all Republicans.
I agree. This was not the stating of the stance of the entire GOP, just one deranged idiot.
One problem is that this idiot co-sponsored abortion legislation with Paul Ryan, who personally believes that no abortion in cases of rape. This brings abortion up as an issue for the Presidential race and revives the "War on women" meme. GOP will lose more women with this one, but it will help them with the far right fringe and social conservatives, but they already had them.
RMoney has had to distance himself from Ryan's postions on a few issues now, one has to wonder, why in the hell did he pick the guy as a running mate? Even his campaign team were against the pick.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
There are certain subjects in science that have made it into the public spotlight as hot-button political issues. Overall, politicians talking more about science is a good thing. But in politics, a particular type of discourse dominates. The world of politics is inherently antagonistic, where one candidate needs to beat another, and the language follows suit. To make their positions easier to digest and remember, politicians tend to dichotomize issues: one candidate adopts the pro-something position, while the other is anti. It’s a world where nuance is at best not appreciated and at worst frowned upon, and where changing your mind in the face of new evidence is criticized as a sign of weakness.
But the problem is that as scientific subjects join those ranks, the antagonistic nature of political discourse has infiltrated elsewhere. Into classrooms. Into labs. Into our everyday discussions with one another. That mentality just doesn’t work in science.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Topic Author
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.