Republican dishonesty shows on 1st night of convention

29 Aug 2012 11:49 - 29 Aug 2012 18:27 #1 by Raees

It was about halfway through the speech given by Mary Fallin, by the grace of a pitiless god the governor of Oklahoma, where I finally came close to losing it. She rolled herself into this remarkable passage:

The history of my great state of Oklahoma offers a great example of pursuing the American Dream. It was built and settled by pioneers movibe west to seek better lives. During the Great Land Run of 1889, thousands of families rushed to put a stake down on empty plots of land. They built tent cities overnight. They farmed the land and they worked hard. And, in 1897, eight years after the land run, a handful of adventurous pioneers risked their own money — not the federal government's money — to drill Oklahoma's first oil well, the Nellie Johnstone. By doing so, these early-day pioneers changed the future and Oklahoma forever and today Oklahoma is one of the nation's key energy producers and job creators. President Obama wants us to believe that Oklahomans owe that success to the federal government — to the Department Of Energy,to the EPA, to the IRS, or maybe even to him. Mr. President, we know better. As we say in Oklahoma, that dog won't hunt.

Handed in as a seventh-grade history essay, this would get no better than a D. Delivered to the convention of one of our only two political parties, it was perhaps the most singularly dishonest speech I have ever seen a politician give, and I grew up in Massachusetts, and Willard Romney was once my governor. My god, Oklahomans wouldn't even have Oklahoma without the federal government, without the Homestead Act of 1889 or the Railroad Act — both, by the way, achievements of a Republican presidents named Abraham Lincoln and Benjamin Harrison. And the land wasn't exactly "empty," Governor. It got emptied by a big-government program called the United States Army. You know what your state would be without the federal government, Governor, without the votes for the legislation from congressmen from the east and north, without the soldiers from New England and the Great Lakes? You know what Oklahoma would be? Sand, with a whole lot of pissed-off Native Americans.


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29 Aug 2012 12:47 #2 by RenegadeCJ
Wow. I didn't know LJ wrote for the Esquire. Her pen name is Charles Pierce?

That whole article is hogwash from a bitter, angry democrat. Anyone who calls those who serve in the military "govt workers" is an idiot. Plain and simple.

Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!

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29 Aug 2012 12:54 #3 by LadyJazzer
Considering how many angry, bitter Republicans there are, I wish I HAD written it.

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29 Aug 2012 12:56 #4 by Something the Dog Said

RenegadeCJ wrote: Wow. I didn't know LJ wrote for the Esquire. Her pen name is Charles Pierce?

That whole article is hogwash from a bitter, angry democrat. Anyone who calls those who serve in the military "govt workers" is an idiot. Plain and simple.


For whom do those in the military work? Where does their paychecks come from?

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29 Aug 2012 13:16 #5 by RenegadeCJ

Something the Dog Said wrote:

RenegadeCJ wrote: Wow. I didn't know LJ wrote for the Esquire. Her pen name is Charles Pierce?

That whole article is hogwash from a bitter, angry democrat. Anyone who calls those who serve in the military "govt workers" is an idiot. Plain and simple.


For whom do those in the military work? Where does their paychecks come from?


Guess it is definition. Govt work is not sacrificing everything for your country. Do they receive a "check from the us treasury, I suppose they do (I haven't seen a check), but it isn't what any thinking person considers govt work. Now some do retire from the military, and become govt workers, but that is another issue.

Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!

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29 Aug 2012 14:34 #6 by appleannie

but it isn't what any thinking person considers govt work.


Sorry but this thinking person considers anyone drawing a government paycheck to be working for the government. Do you think that military people make their own decisions about when & where to deploy?

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29 Aug 2012 14:45 #7 by BearMtnHIB
Hey raees - what was so bad in massatwochits that made you move out here?

I really hope you will consider going back home.

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29 Aug 2012 15:03 #8 by LadyJazzer
Ann Romney's father sounds like a wonderful man, a strong father figure, an excellent provider and a man whose morals and principles reflect the best of America.....

And did you hear the part where she acknowledged that he was a life-long atheist?

Gee, neither did I.

(I hear Bill Maher un-baptized him from the Mormons....)

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29 Aug 2012 17:06 #9 by Soulshiner
Who is the boss of the people in the military?

The President Of The United States. That makes them government employees.

When you plant ice you're going to harvest wind. - Robert Hunter

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29 Aug 2012 17:43 #10 by navycpo7

appleannie wrote:

but it isn't what any thinking person considers govt work.


Sorry but this thinking person considers anyone drawing a government paycheck to be working for the government. Do you think that military people make their own decisions about when & where to deploy?


It is great to be able to think freely isn't it. To clear some things up. We in the military serve our country, not the government of the United States. The oath I took does not say to support and defend the government of the United States, it says to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. My paycheck always had Department of the Navy on it, not the US Treasury. The government just happens to be part of the these United States except lately one has to wonder.

As to deployments etc. For the most part yes the Pentagon folks(generals and admirals) make the decision, not the US Government. That is our job. There are occassions when the President gets notified and has to make the "call". But not to often. There are briefings as to where the Armed Forces are deployed etc. so certain individuals within the circle (President being one of the them) knows our where abouts. It allows for better decision making in certain circumstances.

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