Still don't have anything except "Not Obama", do you?

10 Sep 2012 19:42 #51 by plaidvillain
Renegade, you are extremely quick to disown Bush and try to distance yourself and today's Republican party from him, but we all know that the individual who is President only has limited power and limited responsibility for outcomes...Bush wasn't singlehandedly responsible for the mess that happened at the end of his tenure, but his administration and supporting party DOES bear much of that responsibility. Electing Mitt is scary not because of Mitt, exactly, but because it also means putting the very same people who drove this country straight towards the cliff back into power. It's a matter of putting the power back into the hands of the people who've proven they can't be trusted. You may like to disregard the Bush years and try to ignore they happened, but reality gets in the way. The 'it isn't Obama' mantra is hollow and phony.

Maybe some people weren't entirely cognizant during the stock market collapse and following economic spiral into recession, but I remember it quite well. I remember riding the elevator from the 35th floor in business men with thousand dollar suits who had tears streaming down their faces. They were crying, "somebody just STOP it!...I don't care what you do but make it stop!" To now scream the bailouts failed is bogus. The bailouts DID stop the slide. They did allow us the opportunity to catch our breath and try to come up with a way to turn it around. Perhaps many don't realize our country nearly completed failed. We were very much on the brink of the end of this great nation. The belief that it hasn't done everything for each person that each person wanted has no bearing on the fact that it did exactly what it was supposed to - stop the decline. Heck I remember ol' Beck screaming that the main problem with the stimulus was that it wasn't BIG enough...and it was one of the few times I agreed with him.

Spin it how you like. Ignore the fact the Bush admin and Republican party created this mess. Whatever...like you said, you're a partisan - you have no interest in real evaluation of what happened.

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10 Sep 2012 20:16 - 11 Sep 2012 07:10 #52 by LadyJazzer
They still think they can pull a "Sharron Angle" and/or "Christine O'Donnell" and run a whole campaign all the way to election day by ONLY speaking to FauxNews; ONLY talking to the softball questions and not giving any specifics; and only regurgitating nebulous talking-points about topics they WANT to talk about while ignoring anything they DON'T want to talk about... Good luck with that... They should have learned the same lesson that Angle and O'Donnell learned by now.

Isn't it great how so many here disown Bush... Never liked him...He was a RINO...He wasn't a conservative...But they followed him to the gates of hell, and cheered for him all the way, and every stupid thing he did was somehow the fault of the Dems... You can't make this stuff up... rofllol

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11 Sep 2012 06:09 #53 by RenegadeCJ

plaidvillain wrote: Renegade, you are extremely quick to disown Bush and try to distance yourself and today's Republican party from him, but we all know that the individual who is President only has limited power and limited responsibility for outcomes...Bush wasn't singlehandedly responsible for the mess that happened at the end of his tenure, but his administration and supporting party DOES bear much of that responsibility. Electing Mitt is scary not because of Mitt, exactly, but because it also means putting the very same people who drove this country straight towards the cliff back into power. It's a matter of putting the power back into the hands of the people who've proven they can't be trusted. You may like to disregard the Bush years and try to ignore they happened, but reality gets in the way. The 'it isn't Obama' mantra is hollow and phony.

Maybe some people weren't entirely cognizant during the stock market collapse and following economic spiral into recession, but I remember it quite well. I remember riding the elevator from the 35th floor in business men with thousand dollar suits who had tears streaming down their faces. They were crying, "somebody just STOP it!...I don't care what you do but make it stop!" To now scream the bailouts failed is bogus. The bailouts DID stop the slide. They did allow us the opportunity to catch our breath and try to come up with a way to turn it around. Perhaps many don't realize our country nearly completed failed. We were very much on the brink of the end of this great nation. The belief that it hasn't done everything for each person that each person wanted has no bearing on the fact that it did exactly what it was supposed to - stop the decline. Heck I remember ol' Beck screaming that the main problem with the stimulus was that it wasn't BIG enough...and it was one of the few times I agreed with him.

Spin it how you like. Ignore the fact the Bush admin and Republican party created this mess. Whatever...like you said, you're a partisan - you have no interest in real evaluation of what happened.


I didn't like a lot of what Bush did....especially the spending side. Certain parts of the bailout were needed. TARP was needed. The auto bailout was not. We need to let things fail if they can't stand on their own. If GM had gone bankrupt, they would have been replaced by a more efficient company, or maybe not, but why is govt picking and choosing winners in our economy. Green energy companies are getting hundreds of millions of $$ while other companies are losing everything, and going bankrupt because they aren't deemed "worthy" by govt.

This mess was caused by politicians by both parties. Don't try to spin this onto reps only. Nobody is King. Bush is responsible, as are republicans AND democrats in congress, who make stupid laws, and are really there just for power.

Who knows what Romney will do. I hope he doesn't (if he wins) bring back any of the old guard. I love seeing guys like Paul Ryan who are the new conservatives, willing to actually tackle the hard issues. This is something politicians from either party have been unwilling to do...tell the truth to the American people. I hope these new "young guns" don't get sucked into the Washington mentality to lie...to get re-elected, but I'm not an idiot. I can imagine it will happen. Look at Obama...promising change of all sorts, and once in, he did all the same. Power corrupts.

Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!

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11 Sep 2012 06:13 #54 by RenegadeCJ

Democracy4Sale wrote: They still think they can pull a "Sharron Angle" and/or "Christine O'Donnell" and run a whole campaign all the way to election day by ONLY speaking to FauxNews; ONLY talking to the softball questions and not giving any specifics; and only regurgitating nebulous talking-points about topics they WANT to talk about while ignoring anything they DON'T want to talk about... Good luck with that... They should have learned the same lesson that Angle and O'Donnell learned by now.

Isn't it great how so many of them disown Bush... Never liked him...He was a RINO...He wasn't a conservative...But they followed him to the gates of hell, and cheered for him all the way, and every stupid thing he did was somehow the fault of the Dems... You can't make this stuff up... rofllol


I wish both guys would have to submit to interviews from both sides. Obama is never questioned with anything more than "who is your favorite band". I haven't heard many Romney interviews, although the few I've heard have posed questions about big issues, but I agree with the fact that due to a wishy washy mainstream media, we don't get the hard questions anymore. What happened to journalists? When did they quite reporting and investigating, and become cheerleaders?

We'll see how the debates go. I hope they force both sides to answer questions.

Too bad future generations aren't here to see all the great things we are spending their $$ on!!

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14 Sep 2012 10:08 #55 by Raees
The Republican mouthpiece sounds off:

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